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What function does this Racism serve
by Den
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Moderation has its place. It is possible to see racism everywhere, that does not mean it is truly there. We have faced this problem with a thousand different faces all throughout history. Like people searching for communist behaviors in their friends and neighbors during the cold war, or people looking for homosexual tendencies when aids first started becoming mainstream, or any of a thousand other paranoid complexes that always have an always will manifest in cultures this large. Two people should be able to have fun without being slandered as racist. I'll go so far to say that if the two models had actually TRIED for King Kong because they both liked the movie, they should be able to do so without racisms would be enemies propping it up as a symbol of hate for racists to rally around. It is not a racist act. It can just be two people having a good time.

Crying racist at everything you can is like outlawing tree-climbing so kids don't hurt themselves; Just because you can do it, does not mean you should do it. You do more harm than good.

When race is used to hold people back, or hold people down it is racism. When race is used to divide people, or promote hatred, then absolutely, it is racism. But if you are using an old movie poster, to draw parallels to an old insult, from the cover of a magazine with two people on it who bear no racist intent of any kind... then you are reaching a little too far. Digging up anything that could be interpreted as racist when ever you get the opportunity isn't uncovering racism, it is witch hunting. If a black friend and white friend, who have no concerns over race, get together and have a good time free of hatreds; then how does it benefit anyone except racists to pick apart what they do looking for things that could be taken as racist.

Sorry, but that kind of thinking isn't fighting racism; it is promoting it. We need to be able to step back and let people play, let them act, let them live without having to dissect every part of their lives in a search for something that might be taken badly. Otherwise we breed distrust, of ourselves and others, we encourage separatism by teaching that there is always some insidious angle and we teach hatred by planting the belief that being caught in a situation that COULD be read as racist, makes everyone involved bad people.

Let us be careful not to become the very thing we are trying to fight.

Re: What function does this Racism serve
by comportment
Den:

Moderation has its place. It is possible to see racism everywhere, that does not mean it is truly there. We have faced this problem with a thousand different faces all throughout history. Like people searching for communist behaviors in their friends and neighbors during the cold war, or people looking for homosexual tendencies when aids first started becoming mainstream, or any of a thousand other paranoid complexes that always have an always will manifest in cultures this large. Two people should be able to have fun without being slandered as racist. I'll go so far to say that if the two models had actually TRIED for King Kong because they both liked the movie, they should be able to do so without racisms would be enemies propping it up as a symbol of hate for racists to rally around. It is not a racist act. It can just be two people having a good time.

Crying racist at everything you can is like outlawing tree-climbing so kids don't hurt themselves; Just because you can do it, does not mean you should do it. You do more harm than good.

When race is used to hold people back, or hold people down it is racism. When race is used to divide people, or promote hatred, then absolutely, it is racism. But if you are using an old movie poster, to draw parallels to an old insult, from the cover of a magazine with two people on it who bear no racist intent of any kind... then you are reaching a little too far. Digging up anything that could be interpreted as racist when ever you get the opportunity isn't uncovering racism, it is witch hunting. If a black friend and white friend, who have no concerns over race, get together and have a good time free of hatreds; then how does it benefit anyone except racists to pick apart what they do looking for things that could be taken as racist.

Sorry, but that kind of thinking isn't fighting racism; it is promoting it. We need to be able to step back and let people play, let them act, let them live without having to dissect every part of their lives in a search for something that might be taken badly. Otherwise we breed distrust, of ourselves and others, we encourage separatism by teaching that there is always some insidious angle and we teach hatred by planting the belief that being caught in a situation that COULD be read as racist, makes everyone involved bad people.

Let us be careful not to become the very thing we are trying to fight.

so basically, race is like the scare about commuinism. it doesn't exist and you're not responsible?

you aren't trying to fight this, you're trying to pretend it doesn't exist. which isn't a fight, it's more of a roll over and accept the advantages.

give me a break. you're crying over racist crying racism. where is the irony, you tell me. that you are white and you are crying about racism? i mean, that seems like the irony to me, that you devote a couple of paragraphs to why it doesn't exist and is not here. You know, because you're all over that shit, and you eradicated that. because white people aren't responsible for the benefits that they get from racism when they live in an ostensibly fair and equitable society. you're so misled that if the gov't told you to eat crap you would, and then you'd write a paragraph about how it's right.

Re: What function does this Racism serve
by akingu

Racism serves to protect ones own race. If whites mingled with the negroids we'd all end up a bunch of lower-IQ half-breeds.

The magazine is owned by the jews, the model is a jew and Lebron is a stupid, illiterate n*gger who couldn't write an essay if his life depended on it! He was a street banging thug and the only reason he's popular now is because he's a n*gger B ball player and making money for the k*kes who own his team!

Racism is wanting to be with those of like kind. "Birds of a feather...". It's safer for whites to keep away from the savage negroids and illegal Mestizos. They are introduced to society about a million yrs too soon!

DD

Re: What function does this Racism serve
by comportment
akingu:

Racism serves to protect ones own race. If whites mingled with the negroids we'd all end up a bunch of lower-IQ half-breeds.

The magazine is owned by the jews, the model is a jew and Lebron is a stupid, illiterate n*gger who couldn't write an essay if his life depended on it! He was a street banging thug and the only reason he's popular now is because he's a n*gger B ball player and making money for the k*kes who own his team!

Racism is wanting to be with those of like kind. "Birds of a feather...". It's safer for whites to keep away from the savage negroids and illegal Mestizos. They are introduced to society about a million yrs too soon!

DD

i don't want to touch all the conspiracy in this with a ten foot pole. nothing you say matters. how about that? thanks for the response, you are a dumb.

if you haven't seen them i'd suggest watching more movies about how the moon landing was fake. or check out the 9/11 conspiracy film, i forget the name but i watched it.


Re: What function does this Racism serve
by Den

I would never deny that Racism is real, nor that it needs to be erradicated. But when we look for it everywhere, we will find it everywhere, real or imagined. There is a very large and important difference between Racism, an act of hate and fear, and percieved racism in everyday pictures and activities. How far do you want to take the parania? Do we judge clothes that have more black cloth than white? What about the materials? Is dark cereal racist because you poor milk over it? What about print, a mostly white backround with only black for the lettering?

Racism is an evil that, through education, can and must be purged from; not just our society, but all society if we are to have a real chance as a species. However, calling everything that could be concieved as potientially racist; racist, is an error. And it does more to promote fear and hatred, than it does to fight it.

Re: What function does this Racism serve
by comportment
Den:

I would never deny that Racism is real, nor that it needs to be erradicated. But when we look for it everywhere, we will find it everywhere, real or imagined. There is a very large and important difference between Racism, an act of hate and fear, and percieved racism in everyday pictures and activities. How far do you want to take the parania? Do we judge clothes that have more black cloth than white? What about the materials? Is dark cereal racist because you poor milk over it? What about print, a mostly white backround with only black for the lettering?

Racism is an evil that, through education, can and must be purged from; not just our society, but all society if we are to have a real chance as a species. However, calling everything that could be concieved as potientially racist; racist, is an error. And it does more to promote fear and hatred, than it does to fight it.

because that's how racism works. it's the big stuff, not the small perfused stuff.

let me just say that you got the right attitude, but you have a high schooler's mind about it. you seem like you were taught that racism ended with civil rights.

racism is subtle. when Kramer blurts it out, that's the tip of the iceberg. even better when it's on the cover of a magazine, because it's just that much easier not to reject it. that's how racism works nowadays, subtle tones and if it goes further, we never address it. same way the whole country works. if it's subtle enough no one will acknowledge it. this is why we can wage wars we don't agree with eight years later. kill the flower don't think about the root.

do you think that the people making the photo weren't aware of what they were trying to construct. that's not racist. they know what they're doing. the racism is about how it's accepted. and that's the point. more to the point, check out about a million replies to this article, can you count for me how many people are crying "omg that's not racist, stop being so sensitive"

count them. just do it. count them. all the whiteys crying out about reverse racism. count them.

******I AM A WHITE MALE.

Re: What function does this Racism serve
by Den

Racism is every bit as real and pervasive as sexism. It is a reality that has major influence over our culture and economy. In the work place, in government and in our educational systems are all places where it perverts what should be; into something else. It is a CURRENT reality, and a problem we face on many planes today. But picking at everything that could be considered racist if viewed from the right angle does nothing to fight the root of the problem. Proper education is where this fight is best fought. In the meantime fairness and equality in government and in the workplace is something we need to fight for and be vigilant of.

Fashion magazine covers can take the day off though. Doesn't the fact that this is so debatable tell you something about its grounding? People are grasping on both sides because there is nothing solid about this incident to hold on to.

Distracting from real issues; where a well placed argument or a well funded fight could make a real difference in the lives of people today, and in the lives of future generations, does more to serve racism than it does to hinder it. This is a witch hunt. It is bickering about a non-sensical "might-be" while real issues of Racism are being ignored. Again, as said before, if we go looking for what might be racism everywhere, we will find it everywhere. Has anyone asked the athlete if he was striving for anti-black? Or the model or the magazine? Thus far, the only ones calling fowl are those who first imagined the wrong doing, and then dubbed themselves as harmed by their imaginings. This isn’t a case of racial remarks being made, or people being mistreated based on the color of their skin, or people trying to speak down about a culture, or promote one over another, this is about a photograph selected because it was believed to be the best representation of the two “characters” from that particular photography shoot. Has the athlete called to say he was misrepresented? No? Then why are you?

And, "all the whiteys" really doesn't have a place in an argument against racism. It fits perfectly though if you are trying to argue in its favor. The race that needs uniting is the human one. That is the goal and that is where every victory over racism should move us towards. So what is the goal of labeling this photograph and these people? Is there one? Is the hope that with the discussion the people involved can somehow be slandered or shamed? Think about what you are trying for.

Re: What function does this Racism serve
by mithros

Highschoolers attitude? No, I think it's far more mature than that. It's more like an elder statesman approach.

There's no point to fight battles which you can't win, especially if there's nothing to gain. If you try to make a big fuss over this, you'll win over some of the people who already agree with you the cost of further alienating those who don't....and for what?

What moral lesson can you achieve? That you and a select few will sit up on high censoring all public discourse for minutia which you decree racist? The rest of us who don't see racism under every rock and in every crevice are to be ignored because our "blindness" can only be closet racism?

Racism isn't always subtle. Sometimes it's glaringly obvious. Those are the battles worth fighting. This is utter nonsense.

Re: What function does this Racism serve
by TaoistPhD
akingu:

Racism serves to protect ones own race. If whites mingled with the negroids we'd all end up a bunch of lower-IQ half-breeds.

The magazine is owned by the jews, the model is a jew and Lebron is a stupid, illiterate n*gger who couldn't write an essay if his life depended on it! He was a street banging thug and the only reason he's popular now is because he's a n*gger B ball player and making money for the k*kes who own his team!

Racism is wanting to be with those of like kind. "Birds of a feather...". It's safer for whites to keep away from the savage negroids and illegal Mestizos. They are introduced to society about a million yrs too soon!

DD

The fact of the matter is that so called Negroids were the first humans and were the ancestors of all humans. Your white skin is only a mutation that came from the group of Negroids who migrated out of Africa over 50,000 years ago. The dark skin was not needed in the higher latitudes of the planet and over time is grew paler so more sunlight could be absorbed to produce needed Vitamin D. So to make a long story short you are only a white skinned negroid.

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