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Doesn't Slate have editors?
by dajhilton
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What on earth does this sentence mean? "I don't doubt that the two hosts share a personal relationship that's anything less than cordial." Double negatives are bad enough, but quadruple negatives only indicate that the writer doesn't have a clue what he's trying to say . . .

Re: Doesn't Slate have editors?
by jaebianca
Thank you! I'm no English major (by a long shot), but I found that sentence disturbing. I thought it was a triple negative (net negative), though the article suggested he meant net positive (that they were greater than or equal to cordial).
Re: Doesn't Slate have editors?
by sextus empiricus
Yeah, it looks like the writer meant either "I don't believe that the two hosts share a personal relationship that's anything less than cordial," or "I don't doubt that the two hosts share a personal relationship that's cordial." But it took me a while to figure that out, because what he said means the opposite.
Re: Doesn't Slate have editors?
by KatherineKatherine

Translation: The author believes that Conan and Jay's relationship is probably very cordial.

This entire article was much more awkard that the Conan-Jay interview. Patterson should pat himself on the back.

Re: Triple negative and literary license
by Uncle Squinky
dajhilton wrote:

What on earth does this sentence mean? "I don't doubt that the two hosts share a personal relationship that's anything less than cordial."

I read it as a triple negative, meant to be funny, implying that the two don't get along. "Don't doubt" = believe, "anything less than cordial" = non-cordial

Translation: I believe that the two hosts share a personal relationship that is non-cordial.

That's how I read it anyway. Given the writer was commenting on the professional rivalry between them -- one will be taking the other's gig -- this makes sense. You can argue that it is an awkward, but it can be argued that it was artistic/literary license, meant to be funny. I agree, however, that it required a re-reading to make sense of.

Re: Doesn't Slate have editors?
by evil_robots

I only see one negative - don't. Less and doubt aren't negatives in the grammatical sense. ("I don't want less" isn't a double negative, nor is "I don't want you to doubt me.")

Anyways - I assume the writer is using hesitation language - doubt and the negative clause to show that he is making an assumption that they have a cordial personal relationship, but at the same time, not endorsing that they do.

There is a different meaning in the sentence - "I assume that they have a cordial relationship." verses "I don't doubt that they have a cordial relationship." It's a slight difference, and if it is confusing people, it probably needed to be parsed better, but I think I know what the writer was intending to convey.

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