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Why we should be in mourning
by jerseygirl300

Obama will be the nominee and he cannot win. Look at the polls. McCain is holding his own and he shouldn't be. The country is in recession, voters are not happy about Iraq and they connect McCain with Bush who is extremely unpopular. So why aren't his poll numbers in the gutter? Because the incompetent Democratic party devised primary rules that divided Democrats, leading to bitterness and acrimony that have hurt us in the polls. So many Democrats are feeling angry and disillusioned--for good reason. Why did Dems in Texas get to have their vote counted TWICE (in a primary and a caucus) while Dems in FL and Michigan didn't get their votes counted at all? This is not Clinton's fault or Obama's. It's the party's. And thanks to how royally they screwed up the rules, we have Obama heading for the nomination.

If the Democrats ran the primaries in a straightforward, winner-take-all approach--no caucuses, no independents, no proportionate doling out of delegates, no super delegates, just Democrats from every state getting to vote once on which candidate they think would best represent their party in November, Hillary would be the nominee. She knows that, which is why it's so hard for her to quit now. And for all of her negatives she would have been the stronger candidate. That might be hard for young Obama voters to see right now. But one side effect of the Wright debacle is that it will give these right-wing hate groups license to race bait over and over and over again by accusing Obama of being the racist! He will be swift-boated mercilessly. The debates won't save him. His eloquence will be discounted because it's expected. McCain will be praised effusively for holding his own. He is a war hero who survived soul-crushing brutality, he has a three-decade record of political accomplishment. Obama has what? Just wait.

Clinton would have been tough as nails. They've already thrown everything against her that they could think of. But she's a survivor. Yes, the Clintons are unseemly. But I truly believe she would have put her relentless ambition to good purpose. She would have fought and fought and fought. And in the end we would have had a President who, for all of her imperfections, would finally get healthcare for every American, who considered it her mission to support Americans rather than oil companies and who would have protected our rights by appointing brilliant and compassionate judges to the Supreme Court. Instead come November we will have Bush redux. So, let the mourning begin.

Don't panic!
by pwoxby

"Look at the polls. McCain is holding his own and he shouldn't be."

Don't panic! This is John McCain's honeymoon. It won't last. And the sooner Hillary Clinton faces reality, the sooner McCain's honeymoon will be over.

Obama 08!

Re: Don't panic!
by SteveAustin

pwoxby,

So you are a seer or a fortuneteller too. Good. It is very good to have a second job to help make ends meet.

Re: Don't panic!
by pwoxby

Hey, I was right about Barack Obama getting the Democratic nomination. :)

Obama 08!

Re: Don't panic!
by SteveAustin

pwoxby,

Probability is not certainly. Let's wait and see! If you are right, I will definitively send you a nice sample of Obama's shield (according to Ted Randall).

Re: Why we should be in mourning
by Clark_Kent

The last time I looked, Obama was ahead of McCain by around ten points. By November Iraq will be even worse a mess than it is today, and people won't be worrying about a recession. They will be hoping against hope it isn't a long term depression.

Michigan and Florida went against the party rules and conducted primaries that were illegal. All candidates agreed not to participate in them. Now Clinton wants to change the rules. Texas set up a nutty system, but the candidates knew that going in. Clinton only won the popular vote because in 5 Texas counties not a single Republican voted in their primary because they were all following Limbaugh voting for Clinton in the Democratic primary. They did the same thing in Ohio. Doesn't an "endorsement" by Limbaugh tell you something?

Clinton shot down any chance she had by that idiotic claim of running to her car under a hail of sniiper fire in Bosnia and then "misremembering" when the vidio of the real scene appeared. The claim of brokering the peace in Ireland also proved equally false when the principals of both sides who, won Nobel Peace Prizes, both stated that she had absolutely nothing to do with it. If you remember what the Republicans did to Al Gore and John Kerry with lies, Imagine what they would do to Clinton with truth on their side. Toughness and ruthlessness will only work in the absence of stupidity.

Re: Why we should be in mourning
by JTS
The polls at this stage are almost meaningless. The Dems have huge advantages this year. They could win with a small paper cutout of Hillary as the nominee.
Re: Why we should be in mourning
by s34738

Obama is going to finish Hillary off, then he's going to stomp all over McCain in a series of debates, then he's going to march right into the White House.

McCain is dead in the water. You might as well put a 3rd grader at the podium to debate against Obama. No one wants 100 more years in Iraq, no one wants McCain. He's wrong on the big issues, he's slow-witted in general and stubborn too, and he's not even popular among Republicans.

Re: Why we should be in mourning
by JTS
Don't count him out just yet. At times he can appear disarmingly honest (this may not serve so well now as well as it did as a Senator), he's got Rove working for him (this is still a rumor, but with more evidence to support it recently), he's got Willy Wright fall back on, so far he comes across as likeable and trustworthy... but I agree with you. He's just another Bob Dole.
Re: Why we should be in mourning
by NightSwimmer

"If the Democrats ran the primaries in a straightforward, winner-take-all approach--no caucuses, no independents, no proportionate doling out of delegates, no super delegates, just Democrats from every state getting to vote once on which candidate they think would best represent their party in November, Hillary would be the nominee. She knows that, which is why it's so hard for her to quit now."

It's not too late for her to join the Republican Party.

Re: Don't panic!
by NowOnlyNow

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