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S 2433-Obama Sponsors 845 Billion Dollars for Africa?
by Smarmalade
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This bill is sponsored by Senator Obama of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

S.2433 Global Poverty Act of 2007 A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
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  • Official: A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day. as introduced.
  • Short: Global Poverty Act of 2007 as introduced.

For starters, he's sponsoring the US Senate's version of the Global Poverty Act of 2007 (S.2433). Cost: $845 billion over 13 years, to be dispensed in ...

What's interesting in this other link below are all the comments of readers...about how it got passed and is currently now languishing in the Senate...but waiting for the NEW POTUS OBAMA to sign it post haste into officialdom?

So it seems.... and does this mean that all of this campaigning rhetoric is simply just rhetoric (just words?) , but when the rubber hits the road, the american taxpayers' money over the next decade is going to assist Africans? and not Americans? I mean...like...whooooaaaa!

Well...with a black nationalist president sitting in the White House, it might easily come to pass, America be damned.

What with all these tax cuts, how in tarnation are all these grandiose plans to help the global community come about to pass when right in the here and now, the economy in america is the #1 issue and hurting all of those who are saying that NAFTA took the jobs away.

Instead of spending trillions on the IRAQ war which Senator Obama DID SIGN to continue and sign-off to spend on, will America's money now be diverted down the future, should he become the next liberal POTUS, to spend hundreds of billions of dollars for those who are part and parcel of the Black Liberation Theology Jesus Christ cult of Christianity?

Hmmmm...let's see what more conspires to happen.

Below is excerpted from commentary from The Free Republic:

Why are Republicans in Congress trying to help Barack Obama?

Republicans allowed a bill that carries his name, among nine others, to pass the Senate Foreign Relations Committee by voice vote last week – without any hearings. That means there was no roll-call vote so no member can be held accountable. The same bill passed the House by voice vote last year.

The Obama bill passed out of committee with the cooperation of the co-sponsor, Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind. A Rhodes scholar like former President Bill Clinton, Lugar has never seen a United Nations enhancement he didn’t like.

Obama’s costly, dangerous and altogether bad bill (S. 2433), which could come up in the Senate any day, is called the Global Poverty Act. It would commit U.S. taxpayers to spend 0.7 percent of our Gross Domestic Product on foreign handouts, which is at least $30 billion over and above the exorbitant and wasted sums we already give away overseas.

The bipartisan bill would require the president “to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.”

The bill’s other co-sponsors include Sens. Joseph Biden, D-Del., Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., Chris Dodd, D-Conn., Dick Durbin, D-Ill., Russ Feingold, D-Wis., Diane Feinstein, D-Calif., Charles Hagel, R-Neb., and Robert Mendez, D-N.J.

We should be on guard any time politicians use the word “comprehensive,” an umbrella word that always shades a lot of mischief. The notion that U.S. taxpayers should or could cut in half the number of people worldwide who live in poverty by 2015 is ridiculous.


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Also...this is an interesting link from the contents of the first link above: <link>
DSA describes itself as the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. The Socialist International (SI) has what is called “consultative status” with the United Nations. In other words, it works hand-in-glove with the world body.
The international con-nection is important and significant because an Obama bill, “The Global Poverty Act,” has recently been rushed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, with the assistance of Democratic Senator Joe Biden, the chairman, and Republican Senator Richard Lugar. The legislation (S.2433) commits the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars more in foreign aid on the rest of the world, in order to comply with the “Millennium Goals” established by the United Nations. Conservative members of the committee were largely caught off-guard by the move to pass the Obama bill but are putting a “hold” on it, in order to try to prevent the legislation, which also quickly passed the House, from being quickly brought up for a full Senate vote. But observers think that Senate Democrats may try to pass it quickly anyway, in order to give Obama a precious legislative “victory” that he could run on.(all emphasis mine)
read it allCFP: Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?

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And here's also what other people are thinking about this Global Poverty Act:

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Global Taxation

Under the auspices of the United Nation there is a 845 Billion, global tax bill in the making. If this bill is allowed to become law, the tax payers of America will be faced with another burden of taxation that they will have to bear.

The United Nations (UN) has a plan called the "Global Poverty Act (S.2433) that would, if passed, force the productive U.S. Tax Payers to pay out as much as 0.7 percent of our nations Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to third world Countries.

The tragic/ridiculous part of this, is that this "scheme" is supported by Barak H. Obama and other left wingers as well as three RINO's - Chuck Hagel, Olympia Snow and Richard Lugar. For over ten years now, I have been, as well as many others, saying that the intentions of the Democratic Party, has been to enslave the productive class of our citizens to an unrelenting tax burden. The Democratic Party has become relentless in achieving their goal, of taxing the Hard Working Class of Americans to paying the bill of supporting the Democrats Agenda.

This agenda is and always has been to buy the votes of the unproductive underclass in order to create a Dependant class of Citizenship within the Democratic Party. Today, within
those supporting the Democrats, there is now a 40 percent dependency class. I believe that they are shooting for a Dependency class of 51 percent. In this manner, they can guarantee a Dependency majority and a Socialistic form of Government and eventually Communism.

To me Obama is, today, the greatest threat to our nations National Sovereignty. He, in my opinion, has been selected and well supported by those who wish to destroy this country and with it, the last and best hope for a sustained Democracy. Why is this? They want Power! They cannot obtain such unless they destroy America. They cannot obtain equality by making everyone rich. They can only accomplish their goals by making everyone POOR. Taxation is their tool of choice for destruction

'The desire to conserve is conpatible with all manner of change, provided that change is also continuity." Roger Scruton - The meaning of Conservatism, 1980.

Congress is proposing, in Barack Obama’s Global Poverty Act (S.2433, based on H.R. 1302, passed by the House September 25, 2007) ... that no record be kept of those who endorsed it. S.2433

S.2433 was passed from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in the same manner – by voice vote, without public hearings, to protect the identities of the guilty. Another excerpt:. Has the US ever approved a tax on its citizens imposed ...

You are a wonder.
by justoffal

Your research abilities are second to none here.

This is an exasperating thing to read...even as I question my on ethics on this election choices versus the racial bias thing we see this kind of pandering and this kind of "Americans last " bull crap going on.

How can we feed others when we cannot feed ourselves.

This nation is like an over sized household. The Shame of a parent feeds the local neighbors and let's his kids starve is what we are seeing here. Anyone with common sense should know that Charity starts at home.

And furthermore I would love to put a money tracer on the funds as they leave our shores get laundered in assets and foreign currencies and then trickle back to our nation via private bank accounts and posh entitlements.

Let's sponsor a bill to spend 800 billion on American home owners and blue collar workers over the next 7 or 8 years and then when we have the presence of prosperity we can all turn to helping our neighbors. Oh yeah, I forgot...Obama is already there...he's got his.

No record being kept of those who endorsed it???? Isn't that illegal.

Now I have had enough of Saint Obama once and for all

He is definitely a slickster and as I am now seeing with more revelations every day a shady character.

Re: You are a wonder.
by Smarmalade

You also really need to read that link cited below and short excerpt below.

The entire article has real world factual evidence and a lot of connections about the socialist agenda.

Now I am beginning to understand Gov Howard Dean's finger in the pie in all of these shenanigans with the frontloading of the democratic primaries to benefit Obama right out of the gate to have more delegates from the beginning, as well as truly understand Obama's connection to the Black Liberation Theology effort as expounded in Pastor Wright's UCC sermons and African nationalist value system...as well as understand his own family connections to the Luoy tribe in Kenya and his support of Raila Oginda, the socialist democrat now currently sworn in as Prime Minister in Kenya this March 2008, and Raila Oginda belongs to the same Luoy tribe that obama belongs to from his father's birth into that Luoy tribe in Kenya.

It is all beginning to fit together...and frankly, it is quite scary.

A sitting american black President who has secret socialist democratic (marxist) leanings as shown in his really far liberal leftist leanings, as well as his fluency with "just words" because in fact, all of this campaigning is just to achieve the POTUS position, and then america will see the real Obama as he is, a black nationalist african POTUS who .....well, you all can decide who and what. ...

All of this searching and understanding came about when I inadvertently overheard the conversations of two professional african-american men who were saying that they were not going to vote for Obama because "he had a standing army in Africa"....but then they moved away and I didn't hear any more. What "standing army in Africa"? In Kenya in his father's birth place where his cousing Raila Odinga is the Prime Minister and they both belong to the same african Luoy tribe?

There's reason to wonder about the article below that asks if Obama isn't a "radical" mole. Now I am beginning to understand why that General on obama's staff accused the Prsident Bill Clinton's remarks of smacking of "mccarthyism". Seems like everyone wants to deflect attention and scrutiny from Obama in the MSM, as well as downplay his attendance in the last 20 years in the black liberation theology (read 'of marxist origin philosophy") UCC of the Pastor Wright, as well as find an easy way to get himself into politics. I also read somewhere while he was at Columbia he was recruited for someothing or other ...need to try to find info on that.

The article below is from Canada Free Press:

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Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?

By Cliff Kincaid Wednesday, March 19, 2008

In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama’s life as a “secret smoker” and how he “went to great lengths to conceal the habit.” But what about Obama’s secret political life? It turns out that Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

In his books, Obama admits attending “socialist conferences” and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a “hard-core academic Marxist,” which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.

However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his “poetry” and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just “Frank.”

OBAMA’S SECRET SOCIALIST CONNECTIONS

Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.

Re: S 2433-Obama Sponsors 845 Billion Dollars for Africa?
by watt4bob

$845,000,000,000.00/13 years = $65,000,000,000.00/year ...

... or $5,416,000,000.00/ Month ...

in very conservative terms, half of what we're spending on the war in Iraq in a month.

Of course we could keep ignoring Africa, and let the Communist Chinese keep buying it with the dollars we are giving them.

Recap:

$13 Billion/Month for the next hudred years, to bomb one small country into the stoneage -

-or-

$5.416 Billion/Month for thirteen years, to maintain our place a the table in a continent that holds most of the worlds manganese, cobalt, nickel, iron, platinum, titanium, gold, aluminum, diamonds, and oh yes...oil.

You're really watching out for our country's interests.

Thanks.

The United States
by ducadmo

Was signatory to a United Nations General Assembly resolution thirty five years ago to to commit 0.7% of GDI to ODA (poverty aid). We have never kept that commitment, but few industrialized nations have.

The average commitment is about .36%.

The United States ranks twentieth at .17%, just ahead of Greece. That's a little more than half of Canada's contribution, and only a third of Great Britain and unlike both of these nations, most (70%) of current U.S. aid is tied to the purchase of U.S. products. Five european nations exceed .7%.

Iraq receives most of U.S. foreign aid - followed by Israel, Egypt, and Afghanistan. Israel receives more than all of sub-saharan Africa and asia combined.

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the US can't compete with China
by Smarmalade

or Russia in Africa and still attempt to get out of the economic shithole that they have made here in the US.

Of course, we can always pay to sit at the table and when our own country sinks beneath the amber waves of grain, then they can see if any other nations want to offer us some 65 billion dollars a year for some 13 years....down the road.

But of course you can't offer any solutions either.

You simply rant and rave at what you all think this country ca do...and we are sliding deeply into a "depression", as you may have intimated but no one and absolutely no one will use that word... the economic problems in this country are in serious deep shit...and it won't take a little bit it will take a lot of anguish and suffering of this nation just to get past square #1.

So I would guess ...
by watt4bob

... your first inclination is to quit spending $13 Billion/ Month to blow holes in the sands of Iraq?

Or, maybe you'd revoke the $300 Million DOD contract of the 22 year old kid from Miami who is selling 50 year-old bullets to our government for the Afgan army?

Ahem
by Smarmalade

Could you please just go and masturbate quietly off in some corner somewhere where you are?

On second thought...
by Smarmalade

Public records show that AEY’s contracts since 2004 have potentially been worth more than a third of a billion dollars. Mr. Diveroli set the value higher: he claimed to do $200 million in business each year.

Several military officers and government officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the investigations, questioned how Mr. Diveroli, and a small group of men principally in their 20s and without extensive military or procurement experiences, landed so much vital government work.

Maybe AEY is simply a front for some other clandestine activities...

Are you really this dim?
by Sawbones

If you actually follow the link to the actual bill, there is no mention of $845 billion, or even of the 0.7% of GDP (although getting our foreign aid to that level would be a reasonable start). In fact, there are very few hard numbers in the bill at all. So assail the bill as empty do-gooder rhetoric without substance if you want, but what you've done here is just cut and paste from the most worthless sources of information on the net.

This is beneath you.
by Sawbones
To laud the "research ability" of someone who basically does a cut and paste of various blogs of wildly varying credibility, without checking the actual substance behind the post? Check the actual bill; find me the numbers cited, and tell me how the $845 billion figure was calculated. Find me anything that promises to do anything substantively different from what we are already doing. Find me even a whiff of substance here. You can say that the bill is just talking a good game about poverty without doing anything about it, but to paint it as socialism run amok is either spin of the most strenuous sort or just simple mental limitation.
BA's top 10 thoughts on obama's bill
by baltimore aureole

10 - why is african poverty more actionable than middle east poverty? last time i checked it was the palestinians, hamas, hezbollah, etc who wanted to blow up the world

9 - bush gave africa $15 billion in the aids fight. obama gives less, but gets more attention? "this wouldn't be happening if he wuz white"

8 - wouldn't it be simpler to depose the corrupt leaders like mugabe? it could save billions, and immediately improve people's lives? (google "corrupt african leader" and you get the leaders of virtually every country there)

7 - does bono approve of obama's approach? he's the final word, isn't he?

6 - is any amount of money going to make a difference to a landlocked desertified nation without oil, seaports, or arable land? what would happen if you gave $8 billion to people living in the gobi desert, or death valley? wouldn't they just move away, and be better off for it?

5 - can we restrict obama's money from going to countries where they still buy and sell human beings as slaves? that would save a lot, i betcha

4 - why isn't hugo chavez giving oil assistance to africa, rather than the voters of massachussets? it can't be because there's no joseph kennedy figure to curry favor with there, can it? can it?

3 - paradoxically, if you give money to africans, and ask them to become self sufficient with farming, they burn down the savannah and put the megafauna there at greater risk of extinction. this is an actual fact that has been well documented

2 - obama - please read "guns, germs, and steel" by jared diamond. then write a 200 word essay on what you've learned.

1 - the world bank has been throwing money at africa for 30 years, only to have it end up in the pockets of corrupt government officials. there's no reason obama shouldn't be humiliated by having the same thing happen, if he's that unfamiliar with world events

"some other clandestine activities" ...
by watt4bob
... you mean if it's clandestine, that means it's ok?
Re: Are you really this dim?
by watt4bob

...apparently yes, practically a black hole.

hope this helps light the dark in your life
by Smarmalade

Of course I know that to have gotten that amount, there was some calculations made that is not actually circumscribed within the bill.

But...one has to understand the impact, and whomever had done that initial analysis and it is actually out there, has given a pretty good assessment of what it will cost.

Since the amount is not written into the bill, no one can actually find fault with the bill when it is surreptitiously approved. Only when the actual dollars have to start will it be assessed and found out too late, the phalarope.

Sorry...but:

Jeffrey Sachs, who ran the U.N.'s "Millennium Project," which monitors compliance with and progress toward these goals, says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends. "We are short by $65 billion each year, which may seem like a vast sum, but it represents just 0.5% of our GNP," says Sachs.

Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.'s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the Millennium Development Goals, this amounts to $845 billion.


Ten cents more per year to the UN is way too much.
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Also, this Africa is a lost cause, Sachs's critics are happy to tell you. It's a hopeless proposition. Corrupt. Over the past 50 years, more than $500 billion in foreign aid to Africa has gone down the drain; why would anyone in his right mind pour good money after bad?might help:

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Excerpt: Also...Cliff Kinkaid has this to say as excerpted:

The link is at the end of the excerpt and also here:

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"....The bill requires the president to devise a "comprehensive strategy" to meet U.N. demands for nations to meet the so-called Millennium Development Goals. It says this strategy must include "specific and measurable goals, efforts to be undertaken, benchmarks, and timetables..."

It is true that these specific details are not explicitly defined in the bill.

That is part of the legislative deception.

In order to understand what the president must do, the executive branch would have to take into account the nature of the Millennium Goals and U.N. documents associated with them.

You can be sure that the U.S. Department of State has a complete understanding of what all of this means, even if some of the politicians on Capitol Hill do not.

As someone who has been covering U.N. conferences for many years, it made complete sense to me.

And that is why I wrote my initial column about it.

The bill does not attach a dollar figure--and does not need to--because that is contained in the 2002 so-called "Monterrey Consensus," which grew out of the 2000 Millennium Declaration, which is cited in the bill.

Understanding this critical fact is a simple matter of reading the appropriate U.N. documents.

The sponsors could count on the major media not to do so.

Here's where the issue gets fairly complicated.

Congressional hearings could have made all of this clear if they would have been held.

But they were not.

And that is shameful on the part of Congress.

The Millennium Declaration, which was issued in 2000, specifically called for a "Financing for Development" conference, which was held in 2002 in Monterrey, Mexico, and produced the "Monterrey Consensus."

I was in Monterrey at the time covering this event.

The whole purpose of this event was to force countries to spend more money on foreign aid.

The "Monterrey Consensus" document coming out of the conference committed nations to spending 0.7 percent of Gross National Product (GNP) on official development assistance (ODA), otherwise known as foreign aid.

It says, specifically, that "We recognize that a substantial increase in ODA and other resources will be required if developing countries are to achieve the internationally agreed development goals and objectives, including those contained in the Millennium Declaration."

It then goes on to call for "concrete efforts towards the target of 0.7 percent" of GNP as ODA.

It also proposes "innovative sources of finance" to pay for the increased foreign aid.

That is a reference to global taxes, as I have documented on numerous occasions.

All of this is necessary to understand the basis for and the nature of the Global Poverty Act. But there's more.

Jeffrey Sachs, who ran the U.N.'s "Millennium Project," which monitors compliance with and progress toward these goals, says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends.

"We are short by $65 billion each year, which may seem like a vast sum, but it represents just 0.5% of our GNP," says Sachs.

Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.'s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the Millennium Development Goals, this amounts to $845 billion.

And the only way to raise that kind of money, Sachs wrote, is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels.

This is entirely consistent with and even mandated by the Millennium Declaration, which proposes "innovative sources of finance" to pay for it.

A global tax is inevitable, even predictable, in order to pay for the bill.

Nobody seriously expects that even a liberal Congress would voluntarily vote that kind of money for U.N. causes.

Perhaps it would even balk at accepting a global tax.

But failure to pay would lead to the predictable charges that the U.S. was in default on its international obligations that were set by Congress.

And that would increase the pressure to come up with some means to generate the funds.

A President Obama might then demand that the Congress "pay its dues" to the international community.

Many people don't realize that an international tax on airline travel is already in effect in several countries, in order to generate funds to fight AIDS.

Why not a global tax to combat poverty?

That is inevitably where the Global Poverty Act leads the country, and the State Department, the U.N. and the foreign aid lobby know it.

Only our politicians pretend not to understand the ramifications of what they are doing.

Their constituents and the voters should not be fooled.

In a fallback position, proponents of the Global Poverty Act argue that the bill only commits the U.S. to support one of the United Nations Millennium Development Goals (MDGS)--that of reducing global poverty.

And they contend that the commitment to spending 0.7 percent of Gross National Product on official development assistance is not related to fulfilling this Millennium Goal of reducing poverty.

But the bill actually refers to the document containing all of the goals, which range from cutting global poverty in half to halting the spread of HIV/AIDS and providing universal primary education.

It says, "At the United Nations World Summit in September 2005, the United States joined more than 180 other governments in reiterating their commitment to achieve the United Nations Millennium Development Goals by 2015."

Notice the reference to the U.S. "joining" in this commitment.

The bill also defines the Millennium Development Goals as "the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000)."

What's more, the foreign aid lobby, InterAction, in its publication, "The United States and the MDGS," contends that the U.S. "has not fully joined the world community in making the reduction of global poverty a priority of its official development assistance (ODA)."

This is an obvious reference to what Sachs was talking about.

Foreign aid spending is directly and obviously related to poverty reduction.

You can count on InterAction, which supports the Global Poverty Act, to lobby for more foreign aid spending, citing the Obama/Smith bill as justification.

This is how the Washington game of spending more of your money works.

This is a budget buster that siphons your hard-earned tax dollars to the U.N. and the rest of the world.

In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that Millennium Declaration commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Passage of the Global Poverty Act would not, of course, result in those treaties being ratified.

But it does increase the domestic and international pressure to do so.

And that is another inherent danger of the Global Poverty Act.

The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development."

Does anybody seriously believe that? Does Rep. Adam Smith? Does Senator Barack Obama? Does Senator McCain?

But that is the mentality that went into creating and passing the Global Poverty Act. It is now on the verge of passage by the full Senate.

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Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of Accuracy in Media, and can be contacted at cliff.kincaid@aim.org.

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