make him cringe because of her "ethnic" slurs?

Obama never said as far as I can see and this makes me curious

Born in 1961 BCR* to a "mixed marriage" (a white woman and a black man) in Hawaii near or with his white grandmother he had to be too young to talk at age two when his parents separated never mind understand ethnic anything. I suppose by age six before moving to Indonesia his white grandmother could have bad-mouthed his black father but Obama has never said. And why would a white grandmother who accepted the marriage of her daughter to a black man in 1961 Hawaii ever denegrate a black person for any reason?

From ages 6-10 color could not have been a problem livinging in Indonesia especially as the grandmother was still in Hawaii.

Back in Hawaii, living with white grandparents until he graduated from High School I suppose the grandmother could have made him cringe but really...Hawaii between 1971 and 1979 was over "Japs" and accepting them as coin to be accumulated as they toured the islands they attacked during WWII. I was lucky enough to visit Hawaii several times in the early 1990s and I can honestly say that I do not remember ever "seeing" a black person in that sea of humanity where every one enjoyed life 24/7.

Me, I think that Barak Obama, when it comes to cringing because of his white grandmothers ethnic anything, is blowing smoke...something that he is very good at.

You?

*Before Civil Rights (BCR)

Again, I don't believe she ever did unless it was when she went to give him a rap upside the head now and then as good grandmothers do.

questioning a person's personal family anecdote or claim because no outsider was there to see and to understand what routinely occurred behind closed doors.

I assume that she is long since passed away and that no other family member is prepared to correct Barack on his family reminisces.

Nor does it really matter. Perhaps it really occurred, perhaps it didn't but he believes that it did, perhaps he's just being a typical stinking politician and making it all up. The fact is that it's impossible to refute.

Hard.

The grandmother has passed on and cannot yeah or nay.

And the incident in total has demonstrated that Obama is nothing more that a very bright politician with a Silver Tongue - as did the very late Curley sp Irish mayor of Boston, MA

That Irish mayor convicted of something of other served time in a federal pen located in Danbury, Conn I believe.

Upon his release and return to Boston by train he disembarked at the South Station. Greeted by print reporters he was quoted as saying "while I was in Danbury I met a great many old friends"

This cracked up the hardened reporters not realizing that Curley was talking about the books he had read while working in the prison library. :-)

At the very least Obama has pulled a Mayor Curley in my view.

Good talking to you.

in reference to two men skulking around her apartment window in Hawaii, she said something like more afraid because they were black....luckily common sense and maybe the ability to go outside and see what the heck is going on never occurred to Obama, but to exploit his grandma and introduce her to the crazy censure of his America hating, white blaming minister and all those like him publicly is beyond my ability to comprehend, and I never hope to ever comprehend it. His wife's latest comment about Hillary bowing out extends the warm fuzziness of this whole dysfunctional ethnophobic family. At least with Bush we had Laura, some sense of sanity and calm in that wild and wacked out family. Am I the only one who wants someone who may be boring but at least won't sell us down the river the first chance they have.

Make it Hill

oh by the way

NOT MY GRANDMA

Good talking to you jegal

I hate Hillary from the last movie staring Slick Willie Clinton and hoped that she would lose the 2008 nomination

But I can look any man or woman right in the eye and say, with the utmost sincerely, that Barak Obama is nothing more than a Born Again BS Artiste; the greatest since the days of those magnificent Popularists Huey Long, Adolph Hitler and Father Coughlin

"From ages 6-10 color could not have been a problem livinging in Indonesia especially as the grandmother was still in Hawaii"

Why would you assume color would not be a problem living in Indonesia? Obama was Orang Hitam (a black person), growing up among Orang Asli (local people). Indonesians can be as ethno-centric as any other people so if you are assuming he'd be welcome just because he had dark skin you are very much mistaken.

the other day an older white cousin of mine made me cringe.

she'd taken a part time job in another area of the city and said she saw black kids walking down the road. she was excited to phone and rib an old friend to tell him that the blacks had taken over his old high school.

Skeppy, you are like most cons. you don't understand racism because you're incapable of stepping back from it to get a good look at it. sad for you.

skeppy3..

This is what Obama said in the context of his speech..that you can read, just follow the link in my top (transcript) post.
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"I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother," he said, adding that she "once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Our culture has inculcated many, many of us with a fear and view of 'black males' as potential criminals..In the news we see cops using excessive force against'black males,' shooting them 'by accident' and ..too often, the police get away with this, legally and morally. This same 'many of us' have a split/schizo view of blacks; they are either regular folks like us..or are the bad black males, jail bait and to be feared. Obama's grandmother loved her own family and grandson, but still carried her dose of cultural knee jerk poison in which ethnic groups are stereotyped and split into two camps..the good ones..like us, and the other ones, the drunks, the stupid, the too rich..and so forth.

It's so easy to think in 'black and white,' either/or and not look deeper into what things mean and where they come from. Hate and judgment are two pleasures to be wary of. Both are closely related.
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I think you make some good points, like the exploitation of his deceased grandmother for political gain.

I am feeling very despairing about our choices in 2008 (sorry skep, even mccain causes fear in me) ---- but Obama gives me by far the greates alarm. IMO I think the man is a total phony thriving on ego. No wonder he went into national politics.

Don't you guys look stuff up before you start posting? jeez. His grandmother in Hawaii is not only still alive, but they visit her at Christmas every yaer.

His grandmother is not dead nor are his words..that are more alive than knee jerk cynics who see dirt and danger everywhere that is not lily white clean enough. As you say 'even McCain!' Was he almost clean and good enough for you?

Pray tell, which person would you endorse for Pres. if you could pick and choose anyone you wanted?
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Thanks for the correction, I assumed the poster above was correct when he said she was deceased and that would have moderated my response somewhat.

Who would I want for president? Of the three, Hillary. Even though I much more favor republican platforms, I think it is not time to continue Bush’s ill advised policies on war and lack of boldness in other important matters.

Of course I have little respect for Hillary as well, or her husband, but that is just one voter’s opinion.

I would vote for Pat Buchanan I guess, even though he may make the wrong moves in Iraq but I think he possesses leadership qualities which are crucial to be an effective president. He also is terribly mistaken (IMO) on how he views Israel, but none of us can have all that we want.

Actually, I admit I am not well informed on the current political landscape. I do not know the senators or governors all that well. I read only a little and what I have read about Obama very much troubles me.

The bottom line is I have little hope that a president or even our government can turn the tide of global horrors that we are now in and seem to be looming larger. I also think that there is too much owed to one’s supporters (corporate et al.) that it will allow a president to make bold maneuvers for the common good. Yes, I am very much a skeptic, but the past is a strong indicator of the future in this case.

Do you believe there is someone out there who can really save our nation?

JV-12..
You said:

"Do you believe there is someone out there who can really save our nation?"

ONE person can't do it.. And different factions have different ideas about what SAVE would mean. Hopefully whoever is the next president, and how the Congress will be lined up with their numbers of Repubs and Dems as voting blocks..And the President and Congress working together with more accountability to the American people would be a start in the right direction. We can only hope, watch and see..and vote for the one we think would make the right moves..as we see it.
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wasn't there to make Obama cringe.