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Revote in Michigan
by joyce r girgenti
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Michigan voters deserve a revote ! How can we go through another election with larges groups of voters not being heard ? ! What is a democracy that doesn't allow its people to vote ?!

If OBAMA blocks it or stalls so it can't be done, then hopefully the superdelegates will see through his FALSE CLAIMS of HONESTY and OPENESS.

Joyce, Tampa (Waiting to see if FL will be counted.)

Re: Revote in Michigan
by bacaangel

It's starting to look like Hillary might have a religious issue of her own that is a lot more sinister than Obama's: <link> Yes, we need more balanced and open reporting!
Re: Revote in Michigan
by THX 1138

Way to be disingenuous! Senator Obama had nothing to do with this debacle.

Why not lay blame at the feet of those ninnies in the MI and FL state government(s), and the DNC? They created this problem---and now they are trying to disenfranchise MI voters who opted for a Republican ballot instead of voting in an election that is "not going to count for anything" as Hillary said in New Hampshire last year.


Re: Revote in Michigan
by Jess Wondering

Your are, of course, undoubtedly correct. People shouldn't be told they don't matter--that their votes won't count: Not in America. That kind of stuff is supposed to happen in Iran or Cuba, but not in Uncle Sam's own land.

I hate to descend to a lower plane, because having votes counted is so astronomically important in a democracy, but I will nonetheless...

A thought on the nomination race: Even if the delegates are never seated, Hillary (who ,by the way, I won't vote for) wins big by hitting Barack over the head with the vote voiding issue.

Everyday that Obama continues to stands against counting votes he undermines his own candidacy's central theme. He presents himself at the embodiment of change, a new kind of politician who will not sacrifice principle for expediency.

Yet, he makes the argument that because Hillary's motives aren't pure, he is justified in holding-out against counting the votes. Nobody doubts what his motives are---exactly the same as hers. Every time the issue is mentioned their moral equivalence is re-highlighted.

Obama can't prevent the issue from making him look just as self-interested and manipulative as her. For him, it is a political tar baby. He can't touch it without leaving a piece of his political flesh stuck to it when he tries to get away.

She's running as the "tested realist." He's running as a high road idealist. This issue has flipped him on his back and will erode his credibility every minute he allows it to continue.

It is never a good idea to sacrifice principle for tactical advantage. Often, the decision to do so jumps up later to hook you and never let you loose. Hillary, repeatedly mentioning the voided votes, is rubbing the shine off Barack's campaign without paying any cost herself. His protests about her motives only illustrate his own culpability.

In living memory, his candidacy is probably the single least able to survive repeated exposure of such open self-interested maneuvering. He's offering himself as a political savior and looking ever more like yesterday's breed of paint-by-the-numbers political operative.

She's found the solvent to dissolve his hard won image. His own eloquence becomes a disadvantage because it will be seen as fancy concealment of the person below--the person whose real values are clearly revealed by his own actions.

Just repeat it and repeat it and repeat it and day by day his prospects will fade.....fade by his own actions regardless of how pretty he talks. In March, Gallop says Clinton is up no less than five points. By convention time, the issue will have eaten up a few more of Obama's points and the superdelegates won't have a hard choice to make.

Re: Revote in Michigan
by hopeyfix

He's going to make it for McCain: in each 4 Florida democrats, one won't vote if their delegates are not seated.

Now he wants 50% percent of Michigan. Please bring him a pillow too.


He is so full of it. Its amazing people still buy this crap.

Re: Revote in Michigan
by krmagley

registered to vote in michigan here.

michigan politics has been in the crapper so long no one made a fuss about losing our delegates. this can never be stated enough: There was no cry for a revote until Hillary Clinton realized she was losing. Hillary supporters can piss and moan about dis-enfranchisement all they want, but it's too little too late and their motivations are obvious.

besides, Hillary may have been surprised what would really happen when Obama was actually appearing on the ballot.

I'd drive back home from Washington, DC just to vote for him. And don't tell me thousands of Michigan exiles wouldn't do the same.

Don't Worry
by NightSwimmer

Be Happy!

Hillary has lined up sponsors to throw her own personal election in Michigan. Since she's paying for it, who gives a damn what the people of Michigan think? I'm sure that she can round up some folks to come and vote if necessary.

Whatever it takes baby!

Whatever it takes!

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