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by Wakefield Tolbert

Not that I want one--but what is the cost of plunking the prius parts on the barge for shipment?

Do barges run for free and use no deisel fuel?

It is not just production costs--it is shipment costs.

Where are the primary components of each vehicle made and shipped to and fro??

Of course we use the assumption of carbon being evil here. In reality the prius cannot save us. A major report from the luddite crown now details we need to basically shut down all production that in the end uses carbon or outputs carbon. That is about....well..... all of society.

Unless we live like Laurel Engall's day

Re: Hummers
by nighttrain08

What about aftermarket? IF you lived through an accident in this RC car, what will be the cost of replacement Prius parts? Don't know, how much is Toys R Us selling packages of Legos for these days?

They make different cars for different folks. I wouldn't be caught dead riding in a Prius, let alone own one. I've got my old Dodge pickup that I'll drive til the wheels fall off. When I have to get another one, I'll get the truck with the best power. If that's a hybrid and it doesn't look related to a Mazda Miata, I'll consider the hybrid. Course I don't see any V8 Chevy Hybrids (only pickups I know that are hybrid) stepping up the plate



Re: Hummers
by Wakefield Tolbert

I dont know how accurate the DUST TO DUST study was that is being picked at, but I think what we're eventually going to find out is that like the whole "biofuels" bruha, this is sound and fury over nothing that would "save the Planet" and other handy sloganeering.

AS you might know biofuels made from methonol or ethanol (or biodeisel from soy) were also touted as saving energy, and to boot the carbon emitted was a wash since much carbon uptake was done in the growing of the plants themselves. We know now this is pure myth. The factors left out like production and transport costs of shipment of corn and beans is high, as is the fact of hiking the price of food. AS one chemist said, the most efficient use of corn and beans is to eat it or feed it to animals. That being said also left out, all else being even, is that it is odd principle to burn a large fraction of food supply to power cars with an energy output that pales next to good old gasoline. Then too the creation of NEW farmland demands and intensity of fertilizer and (especially in more sensitive areas like South America) clearing of rain forests and poor soil zones to make room for sugarcane and beans, etc. This is hardly a wash on carbon uptake, if that's your concern.

As to the Prius itself, I can't drive something that looks like a pregnant roller blade.

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