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Re: Wahoo

Cherokee58 — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:08:21 GMT

I wanted to thank everyone here that posted and really know me. I get real sick and tired of hearing JD accuse me of lying and posting on a 3rd grade level-That's insulting to many of the thinkers here. Even his link, when I referred to Fred Dryer at San Diego State, accused me of being incoherent and possibly having a drug or alcohol problem. Well, the fact of the matter was I did know Fred Dryer, who did bust my helmet as I was a freshman defensive end as he was a senior and went on to play in the NFL.

Truett was spot on, I blew a chance to keep my scholarship and my grades dipped, so I did get my draft notice and I did exactly what he surmised. I couldn't get into the Navy or AF and only the Army or Marines were taking bodies at that time. So I took a test in the Army and having finished in the top 10% of recruits at that time, I was offered an MOS in the ASA. During the latter part of ending the program, certain guys were offered positions with a SOG unit if we we could go through the training; being full of piss and vinegar, I did and passed which is why I spent two tours.

As to returning after a serious injury, many did, and I felt a commitment to some of my guys that were still over there. I did not finish the 2nd tour as I had had enough and finally realized what was going on and got a college "early out"

I did finish my degree at UC and later the JD although I did not take the Bar.

I spend my working time trying to assist small businesses in the realm of dealing with the Feds. I have to write some things that you, JD, can't comprehend. So, yes, sometimes I come on this board and let loose and could care less what you think about my postings.

Of course your stuff like "kill them all" and "you're full of shit" shows me a lot about how advanced you are. You should grow up as I said previously and expand your mind, such as it is. I think I would have traded my days in your freezing and hot days over what several here have already posted that they have gone through as I did. Of course, you will never understand what I or others are trying to say. You are a bigot and it will follow you to your grave.

From what I see here, I am glad I have met some good people and they know what I am saying, whereas others know what you are saying is false-these are "thinkers" and I am proud to have them as friends Have a good year JD and try to wean yourself off of the hate!

Re: Wahoo

Wahbooz — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:27:48 GMT

Aw comeon, Jethro, what's the matter, cat got your tongue? Well fret not, redneck, I'll leave so you can be brave and find yourself one of those snappy comebacks.

Are you smarter than a kindergartener, or are you stumped by your other brother Earl?

Re: Wahoo

Wahbooz — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:30:15 GMT

Jethro, that's your breath you're smelling.

Now tell me where I am wrong, jackass.

Wahoo

JackDallas — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:25:08 GMT

You're full of shit.

Jack

Re: A lot of people served

Wahbooz — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:54:50 GMT

The war on terrorism has no correlation whatsoever to Vietnam.

Actually it does. We promised the VietNamese that we would help them gain their independence from France if they helped us defeat the Japanese in Asia. what did we do? We supported France and split their country in two.

The enemy came onto our soil and murdered thousands of Americans. If we are not willing to fight for that reason then we deserve to be enslaved.

Jack

I suppose the same could be said about the Muslim world. The Christian world has attacked and killed them for centuries. I suspect they have a bitch.

Re: A lot of people served

AnnaWolf — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:59:47 GMT

Shit pressed the wrong button.

Where on the US soil did Iraq attack us Jack? We are fightening a wrond war. I thought that day we would go after Bin Laden and so far have not. He still lives????why??? common and get the story streight. it isn't hard.

Cherokee is NOT a Phoney person. He is a good person who just wants PEACE for all. He wants to point out to you and others that War is Hell he has been there and back. I have known him for eight years and by now if he was phoney it would have come out. He is a good person.

This is my last post for awhile because I cannot put up with the crap here on the board cutting up others is not my cup of tea ever. A big waste of time.

So with this I leave for awhile. I don't have the time or the patience for it.

Anna and Wolf

Re: A lot of people served

TruettCollins — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:15:29 GMT

Which one of the enemy was from Iraq? Which one ran to Iraq? How many Al Qaeda were in Iraq before we attacked? Where is OBL? Why attack a country that had nothing to do with attacking us? Why not get those responsible before starting a political war?

One of the big problems with this war on terror is we are not fighting a country but a concept. How many different countries do we have to attack to get all the terrorist. When do we start bombing areas in our on country to get the terrorist? When do we bomb England, Canada, South America, Mexico, France, Germany, Italy, and on and on and on?

Re: To Truett Collins

TruettCollins — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:09:56 GMT

As long as we see our government leading us down the same path it would be wrong for us not to stand up and say NO… NO to putting our children in harms way when not needed, NO to getting involved in an endless war for political reasons, NO to seeing more vets come back only to be treated as something less than even a second class citizen when they try to get the care they deserve. NO as long as there is no true visible goal that says it is ended.

It is our responsibility to a new generation to warn them, and to stand up and ensure they NEVER FORGET.

Re: A lot of people served

JackDallas — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:02:23 GMT

Well, Ho Chi Minh did not send people over here to blow up our buildings and kill our citizens. We went looking for trouble and found it.

The war on terrorism has no correlation whatsoever to Vietnam. The enemy came onto our soil and murdered thousands of Americans. If we are not willing to fight for that reason then we deserve to be enslaved.

Jack

Re: To Truett Collins

JackDallas — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:58:47 GMT

So you're saying Cherokee is actually capable of writing posts that people can understand but he chooses not to because there are a lot retards on the board and he wants to reach them too?

The stuff about the draft (selection notice) and not being able to get into the Air Force or Navy, and being forced into the Army, sounds plausable enough. I don't know because I joined the Navy Reserve when I was still in high school and went on active duty later.

What we come away with is the central point of my top post. Cherokee served in Vietnam....that is to be admired but he should stop reminding us about it every fucking day....it gets old, and it tends to make me doubt the legitimacy of his claims.

Jack

Re: A lot of people served

TruettCollins — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:52:45 GMT

I like my brothers would love to let it go but still wake up in the middle of the night sweating and shaking like crazy. We would love to let it go but we see our goverment headed down the same path and don't want to see another generation face what we faced. We don't want to see our children placed in danger when not requried. We don't want to see young people place in dangers path for nothing more than political reasons.

Re: Loree

TruettCollins — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:49:16 GMT

And many of us who were over there would have traded places with you in a heart beat.

Re: Loree

Loree — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:48:14 GMT

Yeah I know. Leonard did Search and Rescue in the air force in of all places, way up in Alaska. It wasn't very warm up there either, but one thing about it, he never got shot at either.

I think I'd rather be cold, than dodging the FIRE of bullets.

Re: To Truett Collins

TruettCollins — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:47:26 GMT

In all truth until you have lived it, and dealt with the nightmares for years and in some cases decades there is no way you can truly understand what we faced.

I don’t know exactly how it worked with Cherokee but during the draft many times you would be notified that your number had come up, that notification would come before you got the official notice. Many people then would go down and enlist in the Navy or Air force before their official notice. The problem was the Navy and Air Force were keeping their levels pretty steady and would reject the majority of applicants knowing that they were trying to avoid the Army.

Then there were others who as soon as they came of age tried to enlist in the services voluntarily. The only branch of the service that had a draft was the Army, sometimes after receiving the draft notice and reporting for processing if one of the other services had a severe shortage there was a chance you would be allowed to volunteer to go into one of the other services but that was very rare..

Yes the army of the time meant a tour in Vietnam (depending on your MOS) and I know of very few people who wanted to go, and nearly everyone hoped that something would happen to keep them from it. Only some one with some kind of mental problem would look forward to going into combat. But you will find that when we returned we were all proud of the service we had done for our nation.
Not always, I had a good friend SSGT Lucky who was wounded, had reconstructive surgery on his right shoulder, was fitted for a glass eye, had his left ear reconstructed and after 8 months of recovery/rehab was back. Many people were that way, we did not want to leave our brothers over there and in many cases felt guilty about being back in the states while our brothers were still in harms way.

As for his collage, maybe he feels like I do…I have had collage but I don’t try to show off. I thing that if I will talk/write etc. to the lowest level of those who might be reading/listening to me then I reach everyone from there up. If I talk at a doctorate level I am over the head of all the high school drop outs, high school graduates, or most collage students, but if I talk at the high school level, then everyone understands what I am saying.

We all make disjointed statements at times especially if we are upset, or mad at the time.

When those of us who served, and for those of us who were wounded it gets very aggravating to have someone who has never served to try and tell us how the military should be used, operate, or what they should do. It all goes back to the FACT that if you have not been there you have no idea what we are facing, or even how you would react if you were put in the same situation. I saw big tough guy types who froze and pissed their pants the first time the shit hit the fan. I also saw book worm types to stuff that would put world class fighters to shame. No one can know till they are actually in the situation.

It is not belittling the United States as much as it is questioning why this government has put us into the situation we are in, it is not anti-American to want those who are suppose to work for us to be held accountable and have them to explain their actions.

You are entitled to your personal opinion, I could say that from some of your post I question your mental processes, and in come cases your education or maturity. But that again is just my personal opinion and the way I read some of your post.

Many on this board have caused that, I have gone of several times about that, I might have even gone of on you once or twice about comments about Drunken Indians, Squaws etc…. T

here is nothing phony about Cherokee, he like me will be straight forward with you and will at any time tell you just what we think, after all you are dealing with a couple of crazy country boys who have seen far more than anyone should ever be forced to see.

Re: To Truett Collins (Loree)

JackDallas — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:38:44 GMT

I'm not trying to drive a wedge between the two...I personally don't care how close they are. I was just telling the truth.

And i have never exited this board gracefully.

Jack