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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.slate.com/discuss/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Poems</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/3333/ShowForum.aspx</link><description>Poems</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Build: 61120.2)</generator><item><title>Re: poetry courses</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962986.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:56:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2962986</guid><dc:creator>blahblahblahs</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962986.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=3333&amp;PostID=2962986</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/display/indexpoet.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/display/indexpoet.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: poetry courses</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962939.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:44:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2962939</guid><dc:creator>blahblahblahs</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962939.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=3333&amp;PostID=2962939</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;wow. nice list...........&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Mmmmmm…………….lol&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Maybe you’ll like this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;U&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/charlessimic/inthelibrary.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;U&gt;http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/charlessimic/inthelibrary.html&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;　&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And before you open the following , I betcha &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;( even though I have the unfortunate habit of losing whenever I do this with you)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That you’ll never guess who penned the following………...lol&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;　&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Whatever Spiteful fools may Say —&lt;BR&gt;Each jealous, ranting yelper —&lt;BR&gt;No woman ever played the whore&lt;BR&gt;Unless She had a man to help her&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;　&lt;/P&gt;&lt;U&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/prespoetry/al.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;U&gt;http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/prespoetry/al.html&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>a poem about Amerindians and Puritans</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962838.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:15:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2962838</guid><dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962838.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=3333&amp;PostID=2962838</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;BBBs, can't remember if I posted this before, but here's another poem that I'll teach this fall which you might like. It makes an ironic comment about the Puritans thinking they can take over the Indians' land by relating it to Joshua and ancient Jews taking over Caanan with God's approval. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;THE STORY OF JOSHUA* by Alicia Ostriker (b.1937)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The New Englanders are a people of God
settled in those which were once the devil’s territories.&lt;br&gt;
          - &lt;/i&gt;Cotton Mather, &lt;i&gt;The Wonders of the Invisible World, 1692&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We reached the promised land&lt;br&gt;
Forty years later&lt;br&gt;
The original ones who were slaves&lt;br&gt;
Have died&lt;br&gt;
The younger ones are seasoned soldiers&lt;br&gt;
There is wealth enough for everyone and God&lt;br&gt;
Here at our side, the people&lt;br&gt;
Are mad with excitement.&lt;br&gt;
Here is what to do, to take&lt;br&gt;
This land away from the inhabitants:&lt;br&gt;
Burn their villages and cities&lt;br&gt;
Kill their men&lt;br&gt;
Kill their women&lt;br&gt;
Consume the people utterly.&lt;br&gt;
God says: is that clear? &lt;br&gt;
I give you the land, but&lt;br&gt;
You must murder for it.&lt;br&gt;
You will be a nation&lt;br&gt;
Like other nations,&lt;br&gt;
Your hands are going to be stained like theirs&lt;br&gt;
Your innocence annihilated.&lt;br&gt;
Keep listening, Joshua.&lt;br&gt;
Only to you among the nations&lt;br&gt;
Do I also give knowledge&lt;br&gt;
The secret&lt;br&gt;
Knowledge that you are doing evil&lt;br&gt;
Only to you the commandment:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Love ye therefore the stranger, for you
were&lt;/i&gt;        &lt;i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Strangers in the land of Egypt,&lt;/i&gt; a pillar                                       (Deuteronomy 10:19)&lt;br&gt;
Of fire to light your passage&lt;br&gt;
Through the blank desert of history forever.&lt;br&gt;
This is the agreement.&lt;br&gt;
Is it entirely&lt;br&gt;
Clear, Joshua,&lt;br&gt;
Said the Lord.&lt;br&gt;
I said it was. He then commanded me&lt;br&gt;
to destroy Jericho.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;*According to the Bible, after Moses'
death, Joshua, who had previously been appointed Moses' successor, received
from God the command to cross the Jordan River. When Joshua and his troops
reached the river, a miracle caused the river to dry up, so the warriors could
cross into Canaan, the land promised to Abraham. Joshua won the battle of
Jericho and went on to conquer the rest of the land for the Israelites&lt;/i&gt;.  &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>poetry courses</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962808.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:05:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2962808</guid><dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962808.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=3333&amp;PostID=2962808</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;BBBs, at one point I was considering adding an Indian prayer or two, but decided to stick with  Judeo-Christian poems.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've toyed with the idea of having a blog for Slate poems and my critiques but really am not that interested. And as it is, I'm sure I'm breaking the copyright law by passing out copies of poems to my students rather than buying a book.  So I defintely wouldn't advertise my law-breaking by putting up all the poems on a website.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here are the courses I've taught at the local U so far, plus this fall's --&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What
Makes a Poem Great&lt;br&gt;
Contemporary American Poetry&lt;br&gt;
Sonnets: a 500-year Tradition&lt;br&gt;
Classical Chinese Poetry&lt;br&gt;
Modern Polish Poetry&lt;br&gt;
Maryland Poets&lt;br&gt;
Plain-language Poets (Whitman, Dickinson, Frost)&lt;br&gt;
Four Seasons of Poetry&lt;br&gt;
Poetry’s Changing Approach to Religion&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: MaryAnn,  I was looking around and look what I found….......</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962567.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:53:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2962567</guid><dc:creator>blahblahblahs</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962567.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=3333&amp;PostID=2962567</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi MaryAnn, maybe by being ‘ an American’ by war and osmosis, and the victims of a certain kind of holocaust, you might include Native American poems too. Just a thought.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think your class is going to be terrific.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Perhaps you might make your syllabus and every poem available ( with pdf or something) You could even create a blog devoted  to your class and teachings, which would allow for comments below the poems , kinda like Slate. It would last forever in cyberspace.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Well, cheers to you and your soon to be lucky ravenous poetry pupils…….lol&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And happy 4th love………&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;An Indian Prayer&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;My grandfather is the fire&lt;BR&gt;My grandmother is the wind&lt;BR&gt;The Earth is my mother&lt;BR&gt;The Great Spirit is my father&lt;BR&gt;The World stopped at my birth&lt;BR&gt;and laid itself at my feet&lt;BR&gt;And I shall swallow the Earth whole&lt;BR&gt;when I die&lt;BR&gt;and the Earth and I will be one&lt;BR&gt;Hail The Great Spirit, my father&lt;BR&gt;without him no one could exist&lt;BR&gt;because there would be no will to live&lt;BR&gt;Hail The Earth, my mother&lt;BR&gt;without which no food could be grown&lt;BR&gt;and so cause the will to live to starve&lt;BR&gt;Hail the wind, my grandmother&lt;BR&gt;for she brings loving, lifegiving rain &lt;BR&gt;nourishing us as she nourishes our crops&lt;BR&gt;Hail the fire, my grandfather&lt;BR&gt;for the light, the warmth, the comfort he brings&lt;BR&gt;without which we be animals, not men&lt;BR&gt;Hail my parent and grandparents&lt;BR&gt;without which&lt;BR&gt;not I&lt;BR&gt;nor you&lt;BR&gt;nor anyone else&lt;BR&gt;could have existed&lt;BR&gt;Life gives life&lt;BR&gt;which gives unto itself&lt;BR&gt;a promise of new life&lt;BR&gt;Hail the Great Spirit, The Earth, the wind, the fire&lt;BR&gt;praise my parents loudly&lt;BR&gt;for they are your parents, too&lt;BR&gt;Oh, Great Spirit, giver of my life&lt;BR&gt;please accept this humble offering of prayer&lt;BR&gt;this offering of praise&lt;BR&gt;this honest reverence of my love for you.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;B&gt;
&lt;P&gt;H. Kent Craig&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/B&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(From the poetry  list on the left )&lt;/P&gt;&lt;U&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.firstpeople.us/html/An_Indian_Prayer.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;U&gt;http://www.firstpeople.us/html/An_Indian_Prayer.html&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: MaryAnn,  I was looking around and look what I found….......</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962206.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:46:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2962206</guid><dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2962206.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=3333&amp;PostID=2962206</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for looking around, BBBs, but in my course I'm sticking to British and American poets except for Holocaust poems agonizing over the existence of God or referencing religion in some way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;PSALM by Paul Celan (1920 – 1970)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
No one moulds us again out of earth and clay,&lt;br&gt;
no one conjures our dust.&lt;br&gt;
No one.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Praised be your name, no one.&lt;br&gt;
For your sake&lt;br&gt;
we shall flower.&lt;br&gt;
Towards&lt;br&gt;
you.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
A nothing&lt;br&gt;
we were, are, shall&lt;br&gt;
remain, flowering:&lt;br&gt;
the nothing-, the&lt;br&gt;
no one's rose.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
With our pistil soul-bright,&lt;br&gt;
with our stamen heaven-ravaged,&lt;br&gt;
our corolla red&lt;br&gt;
with the crimson word which we sang&lt;br&gt;
over, O over&lt;br&gt;
the thorn.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Translated from the German by Michael
Hamburger&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>MaryAnn,  I was looking around and look what I found….......</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2961066.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:31:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2961066</guid><dc:creator>blahblahblahs</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2961066.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=3333&amp;PostID=2961066</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MaryAnn, I was looking around and look what I found…..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I thought perhaps for your poetry class and the sharing of religious poems,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;you would do well with this man.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Enjoy……….&lt;/P&gt;&lt;U&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wonUQThzX7c&amp;amp;feature=channel" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;U&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wonUQThzX7c&amp;amp;feature=channel&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;　&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Although the poetry of Michelangelo Buonarroti (1475-1564) is not nearly as well known to the public as his sculpture, painting and architecture, it was an important facet of his creative life and appears to have been a passionate and somewhat private secondary form of expression for the artist (he was unpublished during his lifetime,&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;U&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.nellshawcohen.com/stone-note.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;U&gt;http://www.nellshawcohen.com/stone-note.html&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And some works to be found herein&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;　&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Far superior is a&lt;BR&gt;sonnet written to Del Riccio upon the death of the youth, showing how&lt;BR&gt;recent had been Michelangelo's acquaintance with Cecchino, and&lt;BR&gt;containing an unfulfilled promise to carve his portrait:--&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;　&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;_&lt;STRONG&gt;Scarce had I seen for the first time his eyes,&lt;BR&gt;Which to your living eyes were life and light,&lt;BR&gt;When, closed at last in death's injurious night,&lt;BR&gt;He opened them on God in Paradise.&lt;BR&gt;I know it, and I weep--too late made wise:&lt;BR&gt;Yet was the fault not mine; for death's fell spite&lt;BR&gt;Robbed my desire of that supreme delight&lt;BR&gt;Which in your better memory never dies.&lt;BR&gt;Therefore, Luigi, if the task be mine&lt;BR&gt;To make unique Cecchino smile in stone&lt;BR&gt;For ever, now that earth hath made him dim,&lt;BR&gt;If the beloved within the lover shine,&lt;BR&gt;Since art without him cannot work alone,&lt;BR&gt;You must I carve to tell the world of him._&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;========&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;_As one who will re-seek her home of light,&lt;BR&gt;Thy form immortal to this prison-house&lt;BR&gt;Descended, like an angel-piteous,&lt;BR&gt;To heal all hearts and make the whole world bright,&lt;BR&gt;'Tis this that thralls my soul in love's delight,&lt;BR&gt;Not thy clear face of beauty glorious;&lt;BR&gt;For he who harbours virtue still will choose&lt;BR&gt;To love what neither years nor death can blight.&lt;BR&gt;So fares it ever with things high and rare&lt;BR&gt;Wrought in the sweat of nature; heaven above&lt;BR&gt;Showers on their birth the blessings of her prime:&lt;BR&gt;Nor hath God deigned to show Himself elsewhere&lt;BR&gt;More clearly than in human forms sublime,&lt;BR&gt;Which, since they image Him, alone I love._&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;It was not, then, to this or that young man, to this or that woman,&lt;BR&gt;that Michelangelo paid homage, but to the eternal beauty revealed in&lt;BR&gt;the mortal image of divinity before his eyes.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;　&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;　&lt;/P&gt;&lt;U&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.fullbooks.com/The-Life-of-Michelangelo-Buonarroti7.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;U&gt;http://www.fullbooks.com/The-Life-of-Michelangelo-Buonarroti7.html&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;========&lt;/P&gt;&lt;U&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;U&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>