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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.slate.com/discuss/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Books</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/2930/ShowForum.aspx</link><description>Books</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Build: 61120.2)</generator><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2969454.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:34:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2969454</guid><dc:creator>widowson</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2969454.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2969454</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Terrils:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;And here we have the sadly too-common extreme example of "I chose a bunch of Caucasian female losers to date and they sucked - it couldn't have been &lt;EM&gt;anything&lt;/EM&gt; I did, since I'm absolutely perfect - so ALL Caucasian women are horrible people."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dude, the several women you dated who happened to be Caucasian and jerks are &lt;EM&gt;not&lt;/EM&gt;, need I mention, any kind of representative sampling of anything &lt;EM&gt;except your taste in women&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;On one had, you're right in that you can't judge an entire population group by the actions of a few morons; i.e. it's not fair to say all black people are criminals, all arabs are terrorists, ect.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But on the other, I did have an Australlian women ask me, point blank, "Why do american women think they can have all the rights with none of the responsabilities?"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think the problem is that a lot of institutional feminism *has* become mysandric; it's not about equality and mutual respect, it's about fighting and demeaning men in general just because they're men. That attitude does filter down through the culture (TV movies) and poison relationships.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It also is entranched in the family court system; often hostile and hateful twords men who are expected to pay through the nose for kids they can't see.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A lot of white american women *are* spoiled and ungrateful; they take it for granted that a man will sacrifice all of his time, money, and freedom to them in exchange for more demands that, if not met, result in a divorce where she gets to loot her husband for every cent she can and take his kids.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My wife is Mexican and no way in hell is she "submissive" but she come from a family/culture where divorce is not an option unless for something extreme; that you work through marital problems to keep a stable home for the kids, not selfishly quit when things get a little hard.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In closing, american men don't want to be tyrrants, but we don't want to be stabbed in the back either in a fit of pique.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2965654.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:27:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2965654</guid><dc:creator>Ian Blokesworth</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2965654.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2965654</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;After the last few decades of female monopolization of mating culture in TV and the self-help industry, men are finally getting their heads out of the sports and financial pages and speaking up.  Get used to it. American women are horrible for marriageas evidenced by the divorce rate and child custody monopolization, and American men are looking for other, superior sources of women.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2954562.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:48:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2954562</guid><dc:creator>montereyjill</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2954562.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2954562</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;I am still pretty young, but I've spent a good part of my adult life studying, traveling, and living abroad, specifically in Japan.  &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am sick to death of the arguments made by insecure Caucasian men on the topics of preferrable women.  Now, not all men who date outside their culture or race are insecure.  Not at all!  But the guys who have to the constant need to clarify and explain their preferences, and in doing so must insult Caucasian and/or American women need to stop generalizing.  I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience with ONE type of woman.  But not all women of one race or culture are exactly the same!  I know gold-digging Japanese girls, sweet and loving Korean girls, mean Canadian girls, sincere American girls - girls are girls!  People are people!  &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stop the generalization!  I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences with American girls, but they're not all terrible.  This whole argument is so lame and outdated.  &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2953279.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:10:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2953279</guid><dc:creator>zeleny</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2953279.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2953279</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Terrils:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Dude, the several women you dated who happened to be Caucasian and jerks are &lt;EM&gt;not&lt;/EM&gt;, need I mention, any kind of representative sampling of anything &lt;EM&gt;except your taste in women&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;And yet the conclusion he is entitled to draw remains the same: his taste in women is better served by miscegenation. Now why should this preference be so threatening to anyone outside of his target meat market?</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2953204.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:52:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2953204</guid><dc:creator>Terrils</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2953204.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2953204</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;And here we have the sadly too-common extreme example of "I chose a bunch of Caucasian female losers to date and they sucked - it couldn't have been &lt;EM&gt;anything&lt;/EM&gt; I did, since I'm absolutely perfect - so ALL Caucasian women are horrible people."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dude, the several women you dated who happened to be Caucasian and jerks are &lt;EM&gt;not&lt;/EM&gt;, need I mention, any kind of representative sampling of anything &lt;EM&gt;except your taste in women&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2952185.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:11:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2952185</guid><dc:creator>financelaw</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2952185.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2952185</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Caucasian Women: No f'ing way!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hey Toria,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You’re a perfect example of American women narcissism. My European fiancee sees this in American women and she tells me how she can not stand working with them. And by the way, we Western white men, specifically me, are not afraid of you so please, don’t pat yourself on your back just yet. You’re not that special. But of course, you being the ever perfect American white girl that thinks she is special because she exists, you’d think so. I’ve had my dates with American “WHITE” women. Do you want me to list out all of the neurotic BS that I have experience for 20 years? Let me begin with a few; liars, cheaters, undependable, manipulative, can’t cook, can’t follow directions, cant’ clean, no self-control, self-absorbed, whiny, can’t make their own decisions without one of the “30 friends” joining in on the new neurosis of the day. Am I close? And of course, I like how you have pulled out your typical feministic “key words” that have been ingrained into you since childhood, for instance, you’re less “submissive” than Asian women. There’s that word again, “submissive”. How come you American girls always think that men want a submissive woman? What we want is someone that sticks around with screwing half of the town’s population, follows through with what they say they’re going to do, be dependable, not hit the bars every weekend to find out “what may be better” so I can dump him later. American women think that commitment is one-sided; it’s good as long as YOU think it’s ok, but once you find someone different, oh well buddy boy, I’m gone. This is why I quick dating American women in 2001. I have since dated Indian, Vietnamese, Bosnian and French. Not one of these girls have cheated, lied, or taken me for my money. When we broke up, we discussed it face-to-face with no drama. The loved sex and never used it as a tool against me. They were never submissive but respected me and my feelings. Can you say this about American women? Of course not. They don’t respect anything except their self-centered attitudes and expect the world at their feet at their whim. And on top of this, most of you are fat. Here is a typical example. My roommate knows this girl who repeatedly tells him that if they were going to date, he needs to know that if she finds someone better, she’ll dump him. WTF? Only a moron would date a girl like this and on top of this, she admits this? Out loud? I don’t know any guy that would waste his time on someone like this. Obviously you have no idea what it means to be loyal and stick it around. I feel sorry for your husband and I wonder how long it’ll be before he gets “dumped”. Anyway, my life is great since I’ve gone to the other side of the Atlantic. &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Glad you are happy, but...</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2951505.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:21:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2951505</guid><dc:creator>The Real Slim K</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2951505.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2951505</wfw:commentRss><description>damn Romans!</description></item><item><title>Glad you are happy, but...</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2951026.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:26:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2951026</guid><dc:creator>Freetrader2</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2951026.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2951026</wfw:commentRss><description>you've managed to be racist to two distinct races (white men and asian women) in your post.  Your personal experiece, and the stupidity of a few others gives you no right to stand on a soapbox and dictate the personal preferences of others. There are lots of physical generalizations of any race that are -- generally -- true, and non degustibus est disputatum (spelling) as the Romans used to say.</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2951003.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:14:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2951003</guid><dc:creator>Junggai</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2951003.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2951003</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;FirstInLastOut:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Junggai:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;Very true. By marrying a Korean woman, I gave up potroast, but I'll take bulgogi and ton kasu anyday!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ton katsu is Japanese, dumbass. Wow, how culturally sensitive you are, you can't even figure out the difference between korean and Japanese.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the snap judgment, asshole. Of course I know it's Japanese, but Koreans eat it all of the time too. It's part of my regular diet now, having married a Korean.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950982.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:18:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2950982</guid><dc:creator>zeleny</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950982.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2950982</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Toria:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The real reason men like &lt;A href="http://fray.slate.com/discuss/members/techresmgt.aspx" target="_blank"&gt;techresmgt&lt;/A&gt; can't handle Caucasian girls isn't because they are less submissive than Asian girls, it's because most American women know that they can do better if they end up with someone as insecure as him (and dump him!).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;An alternative reason to avoid handling Caucasian girls is their hairy limbs and smelly genitals.</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950835.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:51:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2950835</guid><dc:creator>gwailo_joe</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950835.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2950835</wfw:commentRss><description>Hey Pal. . .why you must be hatin'? Don't act so smart: you aint be knowin yo' fugu from yo' jiap che. . . . . . .</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950831.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:49:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2950831</guid><dc:creator>Liberal Patriot</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950831.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2950831</wfw:commentRss><description>Hmmm.  Good question.  I'll have to ask my wife.  She's latina resident alien with a higher degree of learning than I have.  And she is soooooo hot.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950829.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:47:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2950829</guid><dc:creator>kati</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950829.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2950829</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;"Asian genes" "Asian race" ??????????????&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Asia is a continent --how about looking it up and trying to count the number of different peoples and countries in it!  &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;While you are at it you migth look up the US of A on a world map, you know, just to find out where you are.....  &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950572.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:51:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2950572</guid><dc:creator>FirstInLastOut</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950572.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2950572</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Junggai:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;Very true. By marrying a Korean woman, I gave up potroast, but I'll take bulgogi and ton kasu anyday!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ton katsu is Japanese, dumbass.  Wow, how culturally sensitive you are, you can't even figure out the difference between korean and Japanese.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950144.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:52:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:2950144</guid><dc:creator>Junggai</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2950144.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2930&amp;PostID=2950144</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Toria:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;On a side note, I bet you get spoiled by the tastiest food. I learned how to cook Korean from a couple of my Korean girlfriends and it's fiercely delicious. Too bad my husband's Japanese (if he were Korean, maybe I could make him cook it!). &lt;BR&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Very true. By marrying a Korean woman, I gave up potroast, but I'll take bulgogi and ton kasu anyday!&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>