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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.slate.com/discuss/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Chatterbox</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/2603/ShowForum.aspx</link><description>Chatterbox</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Build: 61120.2)</generator><item><title>Re: the crying blame</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/694122.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:15:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:694122</guid><dc:creator>Unindicted Co-Conspirator</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/694122.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2603&amp;PostID=694122</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Schroeder's hammering in the press was well deserved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If she had cried after losing an election, she might have got some criticism, but what Schroeder did was insane!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;She got up there to announce that she wasn't going to run &amp;amp; broke down in public.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just what was the purpose of the public announcement, it should have been done by press release.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Schroeder proved her incompetence, right then &amp;amp; there! &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the crying blame</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/691956.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:48:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:691956</guid><dc:creator>dbuck</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/691956.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2603&amp;PostID=691956</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Mixing all my metaphors: &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;  Wednesday morning quarterbacking:  the voters have sung:  cry me a river and I'l cry a river over you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dan&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the crying blame</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/687830.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:29:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:687830</guid><dc:creator>widowson</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/687830.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2603&amp;PostID=687830</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;To complete the analogy, Hillary had to punt on her first posession, perhaps her second.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It happens and the best thing to do is to change tactics and try something different to win, not blubber.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the crying blame</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/687799.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:22:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:687799</guid><dc:creator>widowson</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/687799.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2603&amp;PostID=687799</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://fray.slate.com/discuss/Themes/slate/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;dbuck:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tim,&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;After Schroeder's weep-out (I was then her majordomo), I started a lachrymose file, news clips from hither and yon of celebrities tearing up. Who cries more, I soon found out? -- athletes. They cry when they win; they cry when they lose. They cry when they're hired and cry when they're fired, and they weep rivers when they retire. Getting an award, being inducted into some hall of fame, no matter what the occasion, water flows. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Athletes -- and I'm talking male athletes largely -- cry more than any other occupational group. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;In reality, people in competitive occupations, which certainly includes athletes and politicians, have good reason to get emotional. Nothing to be ashamed over.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Dan&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ah, but here's the important difference.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;How much respect would an athlete get if he cried *during* the game? If he bawled after dropping a pass, missing a foul shot, ect.? His team mates would hate his guts, tell him to shut the hell up, and stop being a wuss.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Look at all the grief Terell Owens got because of his in-game hissy fits, for instance.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the crying blame</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/687239.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:20:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:687239</guid><dc:creator>TheRanger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/687239.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2603&amp;PostID=687239</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;"In reality, people in competitive occupations, which certainly includes athletes and politicians, have good reason to get emotional. Nothing to be ashamed over."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Athletes and politicians have a common trait, narcism.  They don't cry because they are concerned about others but because of what is happening to their personal fortunes and egos.  And for that they should be ashamed.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>the crying blame</title><link>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/685541.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:18:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8e55aff1-63ee-4857-a1e9-69fccb83d317:685541</guid><dc:creator>dbuck</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/685541.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=2603&amp;PostID=685541</wfw:commentRss><description>Tim,&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;After Schroeder's weep-out (I was then her majordomo), I started a lachrymose file, news clips from hither and yon of celebrities tearing up.  Who cries more, I soon found out?  -- athletes.  They cry when they win; they cry when they lose.  They cry when they're hired and cry when they're fired, and they weep rivers when they retire.  Getting an award, being inducted into some hall of fame, no matter what the occasion, water flows. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Athletes -- and I'm talking male athletes largely -- cry more than any other occupational group.  &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;In reality, people in competitive occupations, which certainly includes athletes and politicians, have good reason to get emotional.  Nothing to be ashamed over.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Dan</description></item></channel></rss>