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Feminists do NOT defend all women

cassandra — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:53:33 GMT

Feminists support people who are advancing women's interests. And as for Obama's daughters...it would be pretty hard to get them pregnant at their age, so "knocked up" jokes would be pointless.

Re: I think what ties both cases together . . .

Dausuul — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:19:59 GMT

Gatewood, those goalposts look heavy. Need help moving them some more?

I think what ties both cases together . . .

thelyamhound — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:19:44 GMT

. . . is that they're mere speech.

I suppose a private organization can fire whomever it sees fit to fire. For me, though, this sort of outrage is tiresome.

Of course, I only fuel it by dignifying it with response, so my hands aren't exactly clean.

Re: In my opinion . . .

Fitzpatrick — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:41:13 GMT

I'm not sure Imus was making a joke, but I don't think he should have been fired.

In fact, I don't think he was actually fired for the comment, but it was a convenient excuse.

As to the question of whether NOW et. al. are hypocrites, I don't know whether they called for Imus to be fired, so I can't tell. I know that they did condemn Letterman for the comments, but did not call for him to be fired.

In my opinion . . .

thelyamhound — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:33:25 GMT

. . . the only circumstances under which ANY joke should have a consequence is if it fails to be funny (which would be hard to establish, given the subjective nature of comedy). I agree, in other words, that the examples are equivalent.

Hadn't even thought about that angle.

thelyamhound — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:30:53 GMT

Yeah, I didn't even know who Willow was prior to this controversy (aside from the hot redhead on Buffy the Vampire Slayer and the eponymous dwarf in that bad George Lucas movie).

Re: It can count! I

Logic-101 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:40:47 GMT

so no one remembers nappy headed hoe? selective memory?

It can count! I

Gatewood — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:34:55 GMT

find that fascinating.

Re: N.O.W issued one or two

Fitzpatrick — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:13:40 GMT

1. speculation

2. unsubstantiated

3. innuendo

3 for 3!

N.O.W issued one or two

Gatewood — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:01:05 GMT

lukewarm responses -- NOT AT ALL what they would have done had conservative comedian Denis Miller 'joked' about Michelle Obama and her daughters in the same way. They would have gone ape crazy insane had he done that.

As for Letterman issued a classy apology ONLY half a week after issuing a MOCKING APOLOGY wherein he AGAIN said the same jokes. His latest apology occurred only because CBS was in danger of having their sponsors withdraw. Something that may happen to them anyway.

Now I perfectly understand that liberals are in a contest to see if they can be greater hypocrites than many conservatives managed to be during the previous eight years. I think you people are winning that particular contest . . . and I find that fascinating.

Re: Letterman has been taking

Fitzpatrick — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:25:47 GMT

Well, he does like to mention snow-machine Todd.

Re: Feminists FOR David Letterman?

Logic-101 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:43:27 GMT

didnt think so, hypocrits rarely admit what they are...

Re: Feminists FOR David Letterman?

Logic-101 — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:32:22 GMT

does nappy headed hoe ring any bells? and if it does, is the consequence for that joke the same as davys? should it be? and if not , why? any takers?

Re: Feminists FOR David Letterman?

Fitzpatrick — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:15:03 GMT

Why is it that posts that start with, "I find it fascinating..." seldom are? Instead, they are all conservative rants attacking a straw man of hypocrisy.

BTW Letterman made a classy apology the other night, and pointed out that he thought the daughter in question was the older one, but that even so it was a tasteless and uncalled-for joke.

Meanwhile, NOW leadership was a few steps ahead of you. You really should check facts before posting, if you want to avoid looking like an ass.

Meanwhile, I find it fascinating that people are so fascinated by innuendo and speculation.

Re: Letterman has been taking

eofiss — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:54:16 GMT

Now you're lying. Show me one instance in which Letterman mentioned any Palin beside Sarah or Bristol.