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Re: Clinton vs. Obama

Marik7 — Tue, 12 May 2009 17:37:02 GMT

I notice that you don't oppose my point about Clinton and the banking laws. Silence is assent, I assume.

Re: Clinton vs. Obama

Olive & Ouzo & Figgy — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:22:48 GMT

"Oh, yeah, you are going to start writing and writing and writing because you believe that your words can change reality."

This would be comically ironic and ineffectual coming from anyone who posts regularly to the Fray, so I'm glad it came from a McCain supporter.

Re: Clinton vs. Obama

pwoxby — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:56:45 GMT

@ SteveAustin:

"absurd notion? Just because you say so?"

No, because the polls say so. It is statistical samples of large numbers of voters that reflect reality, not your rants.

BTW, John McCain continues his freefall in those polls you desperately want to ignore: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Re: Clinton vs. Obama

entj4sure — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:10:58 GMT

Steve, regardless of the fact that Republicans like to throw out that Obama is the MOST liberal Senator, I'm a moderate Dem and I can tell you he certainly is not. In fact, the far left is none too happy with him because he is so moderate, and so bi-partisan. So, do your homework. Moderate Dems LOVE OBama, it is the radical branch of the party that thinks he is too conservative.

Re: Clinton vs. Obama

SteveAustin — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:37:12 GMT

absurd notion? Just because you say so? You, somebody, who talked so much about the inmaculate Obama, the superagent of change, the one who had never sinned? LOL

Oh, yeah, you are going to start writing and writing and writing because you believe that your words can change reality.

Just interview a couple of moderate Democrats and you will get your numbers straight, unless of course you consider yourself a moderate Democrat, who you aren't. Moderate democrats are realists, and they do not need to be inspired by somebody else. Those who need to be inspired are simply those weak sheep who need a shephard.

Re: Clinton vs. Obama

pwoxby — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:34:04 GMT

"It is not Clinton vs. Obama."

No, it's Obama vs. McCain and Obama has a comfortable lead over McCain in the polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html These polls torpedo your absurd notion that moderate Democrats don't support Barack Obama.

Re: Clinton vs. Obama

SteveAustin — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:19:58 GMT

LOL Marik7.

If Clinton had not won the presidential elections twice, who could have done it in the Democratic party? You? Your candidates? Obama? Obama's wife? Who?

It is not Clinton vs. Obama. It is moderate Democrats vs. the loonies from the extreme left and the naive who believe in that change to nowhere.

Clinton vs. Obama

Marik7 — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:15:47 GMT

Clinton is like Leiberman in drag. You can't tell until you're up close that he's not what he pretends to be.

It seems clear to me that Clinton wants McCain to win, or, perhaps more specifically, he wants Obama to lose.

In fact, Clinton signed a bill that allowed banks to expand their range of services, just as the Republicans hoped. We're now living with the effects of Clinton's "foresight."

The Democrats have had a very hard time getting rid of the spectre of Bill Clinton, but I hope that they succeed.