Faith-Based

How bad can this thing get?

NightSwimmer — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:03:04 GMT

The Hiker's latest statement.

Re: I'll leave that judgement to our readers :)

NightSwimmer — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:09:09 GMT

Golly Gee Whiz Heleva,

I always got the impression that you were making out fairly well in that department.

;-)

Re: I'll leave that judgement to our readers :)

Heleva — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:49:46 GMT

"She could easily find a young man that would be fascinated with banging the Governor's Cougar"

Where is MY YOUNG MAN ready to bang away at a Cougar? HUH?!?

Geess some women get all the fucks!

Re Opera eh. would it go something

white light — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:27:08 GMT

like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tii-5OAKLbA xxxxx

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

Teayser — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:33:00 GMT

They would like nothing more than to have Governor Sanford quietly disappear into the sunset and be forgotten.

Ah, but it's more dilemmatic than even that. Some don't want him to leave because it would elevate the Lt. Gov to Gov and give him (Lt. Gov) the advantage of incumbency if he decided to run.

This whole affair seems to have enough juicy bits to make a good opera (my knowledge of opera is limited to what's in the 'Asian Babe' article posted yesterday).

I think I've got a decent title:

Sanford and the Never Setting Sun.

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

NightSwimmer — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:21:05 GMT

This is a political dilemma for SC Republicans. They would like nothing more than to have Governor Sanford quietly disappear into the sunset and be forgotten. The Governor is not likely to cooperate.

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

Teayser — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:17:33 GMT

It gets deeper.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/30/sanford/index.html

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

Heleva — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:36:20 GMT

NightSwimmer:
Maybe they live for the thrill of possibly being caught?

That is a nice high during sex. That is why doing it in public places is so popular.

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

Heleva — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:36:18 GMT

NightSwimmer:
Maybe they live for the thrill of possibly being caught?

That is a nice high during sex. That is why doing it in public places is so popular.

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

tsedek — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:16:02 GMT

" guess that might work if you've got some place to deposit your kids. If you don't, you're shit outta luck. My dad worked full time and went to school."

Guess he didn't have family or friends. When I went through the single dad thing, some of daughter's friends' parents were broke up, so the single mommies and I rotated weekends, I'ld get all four girls one weekend per month, then spend the occassional weekend with one of the mommies. I also had family with kids, so it wasn't a big deal.

"The only time he could see women was when he was home taking care of us. I always knew when he had a woman over...didn't always see her, but I certainly heard her."

I think you have the uncommon background. Didn't have a woman sleep over when the kid was there until I got married.

"As for my brother's girlfriend, when you're ex is trying to take your kids away using the excuse that you're an unfit parent as his basis for gaining legal custody, one doesn't have a whole lot of options other than being a superlative model parent - no babysitters, no leaving the kids with family, no men in and out of the house."

An exceptional case. In normal situations a nice looking girl will do fine. One of the daughter's friend's moms had four and was a lot of fun, but her ex was cool, friend of mine. She didn't have any trouble getting lovin', but had a hell of a time catching a husband, even with $1400 per month child support.

" (as Mrs. S would have if she had a nice attentive boyfriend on the side),"

Unless he was also a married politician. Not a lot of reputable single guys in that age group.

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

happyatheist — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:11:58 GMT

I guess that might work if you've got some place to deposit your kids. If you don't, you're shit outta luck. My dad worked full time and went to school. The only time he could see women was when he was home taking care of us. I always knew when he had a woman over...didn't always see her, but I certainly heard her. As for my brother's girlfriend, when you're ex is trying to take your kids away using the excuse that you're an unfit parent as his basis for gaining legal custody, one doesn't have a whole lot of options other than being a superlative model parent - no babysitters, no leaving the kids with family, no men in and out of the house.

As I said, menopause apparently isn't a walk in the park for many women. It's not just an excuse, it's a real debilitation. Whether a woman has any reason to muster up the energy to do something about it largely depends on whether or not she cares greatly about her husband's situation relative to hers or even cares much about her own condition.

No, a political marriage is an animal of a different stripe, largely due to the very publicly scrutinized nature of the thing. The only reason why Sanford kept his secret for so long is exactly because his girlfriend was not in this country. Unless Mrs. Sanford was doing the same, which is highly unlikely since she doesn't seem to leave the kids alone for more than a few hours at a time, any in country affair she could entertain would rather rapidly be uncovered.

If what she says is true, that she asked him for a divorce and he promised to straighten out and fly right instead, then he's just a moron. Probably for her own sake and that of the children, as I'm sure she doesn't give a rat's ass about what happens to her husband, she would have preferred to have a quiet amicable split without much fanfare or prying. It would make her look better and would be better for the children. Women who want their husband's out of their lives (as Mrs. S would have if she had a nice attentive boyfriend on the side), do so reasonably, quietly and with very little outward drama - that's what every woman I know in that situation has done and half of them didn't even have boyfriends on the side, they just wanted out as quickly and easily as possible. (My best friend gave her husband a house and $10K cash just to get out and leave her and the kid alone. No drama, no fanfare, just "what will it take to get you to leave and never come back?")

The gov. screwed up. He wanted his little hottie and his respectable political marriage and miscalculated her mood. You don't want to mess with a woman who doesn't want to be messed with. He should have taken his chance when he had it.

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

tsedek — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:33:08 GMT

"As any woman with kids knows, it's rather difficult to have a man in the house without the children knowing about it."

Men with kids know the same things, which is why you don't do it when the kids are in the house. That's "Single Parent 101," which I went through for 11 years while being a single custodial father.

""Comatose" and "dead" from the neck down means the same thing - wife isn't putting out to husband. That was your intended meaning, was it not?"

Using the "change" as the excuse.

"As I said, if Mrs. Sanford had a boyfriend, she would be quietly seeking an amicable divorce , since both parties have obviously decided that they aren't their for the love and sex anymore."

In a political marriage, love and sex probably aren't the major driving forces.

"It would come out and she would be veiwed as a worse miscreant than her husband, placing her at a decided disadvantage amongst their friends and family and in divorce court."

Possible, assuming it came out. The Gov had to do several stupid things to get busted, including copies of mash notes in his files and abandoning ship for a week. St. Bill screwed around for years before Flowers cashed in, then Mellon put his investigators to work.

"Plus women say things to other women, outside the earshot of men, that they wouldn't say to men."

Again, just going on experience, rather than the talk. Plus, my women may have been uncommon. The common sorts never were very attractive to me :)

Re: I'll leave that judgement to our readers :)

happyatheist — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:52:54 GMT

The governor was out of the country and got found out. It would be a whole lot faster and easier to find who's banging the governor's wife than who's banging the governor, since the governor's wife is not leaving the general vicinity of where her children are. Track down the kids, you track down the mother, track down the mother, you can find the eligible candidates who could be screwing her. It's not rocket science.

And, as I said, she wouldn't be treating her husband the way she is if she herself was doing the same thing. The indignant, spurned, cheated on spouse thing only works if you're not actually one of those yourself.

Re: BTW, what about that Sanford guy ?

happyatheist — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:48:57 GMT

Well, one of us has had dealings with very uncommon women. Since mine run the gamut from rich to poor, black to white, young to old, smart to stupid, working and stay at home, I think I have a fairly good demographic slice. Plus women say things to other women, outside the earshot of men, that they wouldn't say to men.

One doesn't have to have kids in bed with one in order to expose the children to the men in their lives. As any woman with kids knows, it's rather difficult to have a man in the house without the children knowing about it. Kids get up in the middle of the night to pee, have nightmares, can't sleep, get sick. It's near impossible to sneak a man into a house with children without that man being seen or heard. Especially when the object of the visit is sex. And upright society women aren't going to leave the kids with a babysitter for a night out without letting the babysitter know where they are and how to get in touch with them in case of emergency, particularly if the husband/father is not in the immediate vicinity and able to handle any such emergency that could arise. People keep tabs on where society people are. That's how the gov. got nailed. If Mrs. Sanford had been doing the same thing, it would be all over the press by now, as well...particularly since the gov. needs to make himself look good. You don't think he's had his people all over her looking for "the reason" why he's a cheating husband?

"Comatose" and "dead" from the neck down means the same thing - wife isn't putting out to husband. That was your intended meaning, was it not?

As I said, any man who is clandestinely spirited into a married woman's house for the purpose of illicit sexual relations with that married woman is nameless and faceless, just as the gov's mistress was nameless and faceless until the shit hit the fan.

As I said, if Mrs. Sanford had a boyfriend, she would be quietly seeking an amicable divorce , since both parties have obviously decided that they aren't their for the love and sex anymore. She wouldn't be making the public spectacle of raking her husband over the coals for something that she, herself, is also engaging in. No matter how discreet she may have tried to be, there is no way a woman in her position could keep that under wraps. It would come out and she would be veiwed as a worse miscreant than her husband, placing her at a decided disadvantage amongst their friends and family and in divorce court.

I'll leave that judgement to our readers :)

NightSwimmer — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:23:01 GMT

I think that both of you are resorting to stereotypes that may or may not be applicable.

I don't know squat about this woman's sex life, but I know this -- if she wants to have a sexual affair, then she is certainly capable. Neither menopause, nor the children would be a serious impediment. She could easily find a young man that would be fascinated with banging the Governor's Cougar and she could manage to do it discreetly if she wanted to.