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Re: After MJ prescription OD, liberals apologize to Rush!

julieboomer — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:42:59 GMT

After Michael Jackson’s prescription overdose, will liberals apologize for chastising Rush for being addicted to prescription drugs too?

okay, I'm sorry......that Limbaugh wasn't given a taste of his own medicine and thrown in jail since he self-righteously called for the imprisonment of all druggies. btw, is Limbaugh off probation yet?

Re: That's your dumbest crap yet, meadow muffin.

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:41:33 GMT

If left-wingers sympathize with drug addicts (even prescription drug adducts), and feel such people are in “need” of help, and then the political opinion of the addict should not affect progressive reasoning. Logic requires consistency of thought.

For example, if it is always wrong to discriminate against black people, then it is likewise always wrong to discriminate against white people, even through Affirmative Action. Logic requires consistency of thought.

Face it: Leftwing ideology is entirely false.

That's your dumbest crap yet, meadow muffin.

DoctorTom — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:28:18 GMT

Just because Michael Jackson may have OD'd, somehow Lard-Ass is owed an apology?

For what! He's a drugged out fat-assed entertainer who is popular with ab out 3% of the population.

He abused drugs, laundered money, hired illegal workers, diddled little Domincan boys, and he lies like a son-of-a-bitch.

Nobody owes that drugged-out fat-ass an apology.

Muff...you're on a roll today!

spreadsheet — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:24:36 GMT

Re: Are you smoking Crack or can't you read?

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:22:05 GMT

Left-wingers disregard culpability of the actors (i.e. killing babies versus murders or targeting civilians versus collateral damage) – that is why leftwing moral relativity is false dogma.

My rational assertion: Like Hitler was holistically evil, not a relatively evil guy who banned smoking and ate vegan meals, progressive dogma is holistically false.

Next please explain to us why progressive “cultural relativity” is a false dogma as well.

Defend your false dogma!

You cannot defend one iota of progressive dogma in any rational, moral meaningful way.

Re: Are you smoking Crack or can't you read?

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:14:13 GMT

Not quite:

Or the relativity of saying the lives of convicted murderers (anti-Death Penalty liberals) are relatively equal to the lives of innocent babies (pro-Abortion liberals).
Or of saying that directly targeting and murdering civilians (Palestine terrorists) is relatively equal to collateral damage (thru Israelis targeting known terrorists).

Even leftwing arguments about moral hypocrisy are flawed proving that the entirety progressive dogma is false.

Re: Are you smoking Crack or can't you read?

langelomisterioso — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:06:01 GMT

You mean the kind of "moral relativity" that allows one to characterize themselves as "pro-life" while applauding the death penalty or the use of high explosives in urban residential neighborhoods? I agree that will corrode societies.Pretty hard on the people getting bombs dropped on them too.

Re: Are you smoking Crack or can't you read?

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:16:03 GMT

The relativist rationalizes his feeling by saying, “David was not talking about statutory rape with the 14 year old daughter present at the baseball game, he was only talking about A-Rod having sex with Palins’s 18 year old daughter (though she was not at the game) because she had premarital sex. And because of her sin, we leftisst feel justified in chastising Palins’ 18 year old daughter.”

A moral person would say, “David should not be discussing statutory rape, or the sex lives of any 14 or 18 year old girls.”

My assignment: Please elaborate (or think) on how moral relativity corrodes societies. This should enlighten you as to the basis of leftwing hypocrisy.

Re: Are you smoking Crack or can't you read?

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:06:34 GMT

Bruce –Your point was that because circumstances don’t match exactly, liberal hypocrisy is irrelevant. However, most circumstances are nearly always different; therefore, almost nothing is exactly the same. I could easily counter by saying, “my situation is relatively different from yours;” therefore, my argument is more valid than yours.

Such relativistic arguments are indefensible, because every situation becomes relatively good or bad. For example, one might argue Hitler was good because he banned public smoking and was a vegan, whereas, we know he was completely evil.

Furthermore, relativistic arguments are too simpleminded to attack, because although most things are relative, we complex thinkers know there are absolutes.

Are you smoking Crack or can't you read?

Bruce — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:52:44 GMT

Clearly you did not even read my post because your response is berift of a reasoned counter argument. I laid out the fallacies you presented and all you've got is a blanket condemnation of Liberal Dogma??

You were the one spewing Dogma instead of facts.

No refutation of my pouints about Rush,No refutation of my[points regarding hypocrisy and no refutation of my points regarding the non-existance of a free marrket in the Talk Radio industry.

You've got NOTHING but BULLSHIT.

Leftwing dogma is false.

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:47:53 GMT

Obama’s election will destroy (is destroying) the United Sates of America: Obama’s pimp-daddy spending habits will not only destroy the US economy but will harm the global economy as nearly every national treasury holds US securities.

Obama will fail. It is a mathematical and logical impossibility that raising taxes on Corporations, small businesses (LLCs that make more than $250K), the wealthy, energy and capital gains will not increase unemployment rates and decrease economic growth. Therefore, Obama’s economic agenda is for other reasons, probably is to create racial/sexual/ethnic equality. Individual liberty, adherence to contracts, minimal Government collusion, and individual responsibility will be thrown out for those who need, from each according to his ability.

The intrusion of Obama’s big Government, free spending, fiscally undisciplined, Socialism will destroy the wealthiest, freest nation the world has ever known. Laissez-faire is the basis of everything that made America great., not egalitarian need. Obama’s proposed Marxist egalitarian redistribution, big Government, collectivist, welfare State ideology is the most destructive ideology the world has ever know, with 140 million worldwide murders and counting…The Road to Serfdom is paved with incremental increases in Government power, socialist redistribution, and the forced cooption of individual rights, property and income, by good meaning progressives.

Don’t ever imply that Obama’s brand of Keynesian Marxism (with a Black Liberation Theology twist) is not far to the left of classical free market economics to the point of being radical. No president has ever been further left. The opposing results of capitalism versus socialism is a nearly absolute, an undeniable truth. Obama represents the antithesis of America. As the US has become the wealthiest, militarily most powerful, culturally most influential nation in world history based on capitalism, Obama wishes to destroy the US with his progressive revolution (to correct oppressor/victimization) by pushing class warfare.

We support sound monetary policies without government intrusion. We reject the intrusion of Obama’s big Government, free spending, fiscally undisciplined progressive redistribution. We demand a firewall between Government and business, like the separation of church and state.

The Keynesian Economics used to stimulate demand is also known as “mercantilism” a consensus flawed ideology. Governments spending us into astronomical debt (taking money from private capital holders) is inefficient and wasteful intrusion/market distortion. Then Keynesians say they will time the economic cycle to repay the debt when the economy recovers – which they cannot predict accurately. Therefore, the inevitable consequences, and it has been tried and tried, is crashing stagflation. The long-term effect of the Keynesian perpetual motion machine is economic destruction, inflation and higher unemployment and increase taxation.

Capitalism is also known as “creative destruction,” where bad businesses fail and are continuously replaced by better and better businesses…Let the market sort things out. Obama is not smarter than the global collective market.

Prove me wrong: Show me any empirical research that support the New Deal, Keynesian economics, or Obamanomics. If you cannot, we are correct.

(I can provide links to research supported by dozens of Nobel Prize winning economists, cited by tens of thousands of researchers.)

Re: Yet another heinous CON post that distorts reality

Addy_ — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:34:47 GMT

Thanks for demonstrating how it is the Right wing that distorts the facts.

Bruce, your post illustrated perfectly how the right distorts facts, just don't understand the way they refuse to admit when they are wrong.. But at least all are not brain washed and see things more clearly.... Obama's presidential win proves that.

Muffin closes her mind off to all that she opposes.. only her views matter and nothing else.

Re: After MJ prescription OD, liberals apologize to Rush!

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:29:35 GMT

I’ll give you all infinite Affirmative Action points, if you can acknowledge leftwing hypocrisy, immorality and irrationality.

Why so much h8red?

Re: Your A Fuckin Babbling Moron

Island Muffin — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:22:01 GMT

Will any leftwing here condemn the above poster for his racist remarks, or are all left-wingers, likewise, anti-white male (many self-hating) racists, anti-Semites and anti-Christians?

Why are Sharpton, Farrakhan, Malcolm X, Jackson, Wright, Khalid al-Mansour, Obama and other Racial Marxists vicious anti-Semites?

Racial Marxists, like Obama (and the aforementioned “Civil Rights” leaders) use race and gender as proxies for the victimization class to promote economic envy, class warfare and racial hatred in order to facilitate their progressive redistribution schemes.

Because oppressed Jews do well economically and are relatively well educated, their vicious hate-filled "racial Marxist" dogma has been proven to be as false.

If oppressed Jews (the most oppressed people in world history) don’t need affirmative action, then their entire racial Marxist ideology is as incorrect as their false Marxist Messiah, Obama.

Marxism can be summed up in only a couple of phrases, "class struggle" and "victims vs. oppressors." Obama is clearly not interested in the ideas of Milton Friedman and Adam Smith. However, racial Marxists, like Obama, use race and gender as proxies for the victimization class to promote economic envy, class warfare and racial hatred in order to facilitate their progressive redistribution schemes.

How many anti-Semitic “civil rights” leaders do you all need to see before you see a trend? <link> “a recent poll found anti-Semitism among blacks three times higher than among non-blacks.”

Black racism comes from the failure of African Americans to achieve at the same rate as Jews, Chinese, Indians, Muslims and etc. Luckily, of the civil right leaders mentioned only MLK didn’t preach racial Marxism. MLK preached a color blind society. So now leftists require racial preferences. Obama is ready to entrench racial discrimination into our judicial system…

Obama was nurtured under Rev. Wright in Black Liberation Theology, based on the teachings of James H. Cone:Theology scholar Dr. Morley states “black theology turns religion into sociology, and Jesus into a black Marxist rebel. While making statements against whites and Asians, it promotes a poor self-image among blacks, and describes the black man as a helpless victim of forces and people beyond his control. Black theology calls for political liberation instead of spiritual salvation.”

The founders of BLT “have worked to incorporate Marxist thought into the black church, forming an ethical framework predicated on a system of oppressor class versus a victim much like Marxism”

Other experts contend that BLT is a “scarcely concealed, Marxist-inspired indictment of American capitalism pervades contemporary 'black-liberation theology'...The black intellectual's goal is to "aid in the destruction of America as he knows it." ... Such destruction requires both black anger and white guilt. The black-power theologian's goal is to tell the story of American oppression so powerfully and precisely that white men will "tremble, curse, and go mad, because they will be drenched with the filth of their evil”

Wikipedia: Black Liberation Theology Quotes:

1. "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people!"

2. "Black Power is an affirmation of the humanity of blacks in spite of white racism. It says that only blacks really know the extent of white oppression, and thus only blacks are prepared to risk all to be free."

3. "All white men are responsible for white oppression....Racism is possible because whites are indifferent to suffering and patient with cruelty…because they are men, a solidarity through which each shares responsibility for every injustice and every wrong committed in the world, and especially for crimes that are committed in his presence or of which he cannot be ignorant.'

4. "The demonic forces of racism are real for the black man. Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil."

5. "Racism is a complete denial of the Incarnation and thus of Christianity...If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist (or "the principalities and powers"), the white church seems to be a manifestation of it. It was the white "Christian" church which took the lead in establishing slavery as an institution and segregation as a pattern in society by sanctioning all-white congregations."

6. “Either God is identified with the oppressed to the point that their experience becomes God's experience, or God is a God of racism...The blackness of God means that God has made the oppressed condition God's own condition.”

7. "Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white oppressors”.

8. "What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal.”

Re: Yet another heinous CON post that distorts reality

Minnmule — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:18:45 GMT

Oh all right- have it your way - I'm sorry Rush is on the air.