"that you were telling a falsehood by saying you don't have to pay to get into Mormon buildings."

What falsehood did I tell? You are like those college students who talk about lies that the "the man" tells and then you ask them "what lies?" and hear them stammer and stutter.

I am the one who said that I pay tithing and I am not ashamed of the fact. Many baptists and protestants also pay tithing, BECAUSE IT IS A BIBLICAL LAW. In old testament days, you had to pay tithing and sacrifice animals to get into the tabernacle. If it makes them a "cult" for their exclusion, than you can condemn every Abrahamic religion for thusly believing so, because they believe in the Old Testament.

I don't mind you calling me a liar if you can actually point to what lie I told you. The fact that you managed to debunk absolutely nothing in your claims leaves you wanting in that. You said we pay 10%, and I confirmed. You also have to avoid pornography, extra and premarital sex, not drink alcohol, consume tabacco or tea or coffee to get into the temple.

You do not have to pay tithing,or anything else to enter our normal worship services, and have communion, and there are 60,000 full-time missionaries, at any given time, offering to teach people the gospel so they can go to the temple. I sent a few people there when I was in Portugal. And don't tell me that stuff about how we only taught ignorant reclusive rejects, I am afraid I know their profiles a little better than any of you (Oh but I guess we can't underestimate the evil hypnotic power of 19-21 year old virgin men who never graduated from college).

I have no shame in tithing because unlike in many other instances, all of the church funds, go to church education, buildings and material (not to mention milliions of offering aid that goes to suffering peoples all over). None of that goes to paying the clergy. My father was a Bishop for seven and a half years and never got a cent from the church.

And as harsh as the exclusion from the temple may sound, every case I have seen involves the bride and groom doing everything in their power to have ring ceremonies, receptions and all else as such so that non-mormon family members can participate.

And as far as your guess that nonmormons joining the church alienates family less than mormons leaving the church, that is a guess indeed. I have seen it, felt it, lived it. Many of my family members have gone away from the church, and my family will never leave them. I reach out to the my Uncle who is just as harsh a critic of the church as many of you. I have also seen families who don't care if their children to join gangs, engage in recreational sex and get STDS, or blow up their school; but if they try to become LDS, that's the end. IT is a common story the world throughout and I have seen it.

If you are worried about me having a persecution complex, google up Governor Lilburn Boggs of Missouri and see one of the few cases of genocide (along with some Indian tribes) in the United States. It would also help me get over the complex if you could point to a specific lie of mine that you won't let stand.