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Re: Baptists didnt massacre unarmed people
by montemm

"Dance and Stammer", Hunh? I am a mormon and every time I talked about mountain meadows, I brought it up. See if this is good enough for you.

If you can claim that the Church sanctioned it, than can I claim that the Southern Baptists sanctioned lynchings of the blacks and the slave trade, because the evidence is about as compelling. Don't bother, I wouldn't want to, because I blaim people for their crimes and not conspiracy theories linking them to organizations.

Doubtless, it was an act of terrorism, because it involved the murder of women and children. Even by secular historical accounts like the History Channel, all available evidence shows that Brigham Young told his messengers to "spare no horse's flesh" in getting his cease-and-desist order to harper and the thugs who did that. Unfortunately, it was before the the days of cell phone and there were no wires to Mountain Meadows so Young's message came too late. Mormons also executed at least some of the terrorists who murdered those people. Your idea that the Church sanctioned it doesn't hold water, unless you want to involve alien plots as well. Maybe we could claim that mormons orchestrated 9/11 to make sure there was enough security at the Winter Olympics. At least it would be a new story, because Mountain Meadows is so old. It is time for a new conspiracy theory, now that the delightful little salamander story the antimormons put out was debunked.

But if we are going to remember the rest of the story about MMM, let us also remember Haun's MIll, Liberty Jail, Illinois, Missouri, Ohio and every other instance in which, prior to MMM, nefarious bigots murdered all of the Mormon Males from ages 10 to elderly, raped Mormon women till they could not stand and left bereft infants to freeze and die. I defy anybody to show that Mountain Meadows was anything but a local and isolated incident. The idea that the Brigham Young was involved is as fringy and unsubstantiated as the idea that Bush, love him or hate him, ordered the WTC bombings himself. It is the one thing anti-mormons can cling to, because all other evidence points to the fact that we are, in large part, a peace-loving and friendly people, who have not returned the viceral hatred leveled against us. We did not engage in witch-burnings, the slave trade, the inquisition, the crusades or anything of the like. It doesn't mean that we are going to thumb our noses at Catholics and Protestants and condemn them all of them for what the worst of them have done. And for all you who are completely anti-religion, just remember that eugenics, nazism and communism spawned from Darwin as much as it did any other philosophy. The problem is inside us all more than it is in any philosophy or religion. You can see it by the bad behavior on the highway.

Now, to harp exclusively on one incident, purpotrated by a renegade Mormon Mob, after so much diaspora and genocide purpotrated by hosts of the vilest creatures who were backed by the state of Missouri, abedded by the Governor of Illinois, and unhampered by the Federal Government, is a bit like focusing soley on atrocities commited by a Zionist Jewish Conspiracy, when Jews have been threatened with destruction since Moses. Surely such rhettoric would win the author of it, titles like "Nazi, antisemite, bigot." I will do no such demagoguery, but will simply ask that anyone purporting to tell the rest of the story to look it up first

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