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Re: No Fly Zone Option
by Usama2
jwschmidt:

Usama, you can't blame the US for the darfur situation because we still sorta support Khartoum in your own post, and then shoot down the idea that we should cut ties with Darfur and clean up the mess. Thats a contradiction, and it just exposes you as not really caring about darfur.

I will dismiss your swipe that I do not care about Darfur. My feelings are not open to debate, nor are my humanitarian concerns.

There have been scores of 'Darfur conflicts' within the the Muslim world since I converted to Islam. I and a growing number of other Muslims have come to realize that going from one conflict after another, Palestine, Kashmir, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Somalia, Sudan, etc. offering crisis management, emergency aid, seize fire options, etc. are not actual solutions. They are band aids that may stop the bleeding, but never close the wounds. And each time, the conflicts gets worse. All the existing institutions are recognized not only as incapable, but in fact down right corrupt in multifacets. They do not offer solutions and allowing America to get involved is sure to not solve anything except entrench American infiltration and subversion of the people, their self determination, their beliefs, and their causes.

Darfur DOES have oil. And China IS a player in the conflict. In fact, the Kenya unrest is tied to Sudan in so much as Odinga, the opposition leader, recieved funding from the Sudanes National Congress party, Omar al Bashir's party. Bashir likely seeks to offset American, British influence for Southern Sudan independence by bringing to the Kenyan presidency Odinga who will be more supportive of Sudanese unity and less likely to support the Neo Con agenda of division of Sudan, and acquisition of Southern Sudan oil.

But from my perspective, the people of Darfur and Eastern Chad are being treated as pawns by the world governments. Except for maybe George Clooney, I don't trust anything coming from American shores about Darfur. The UN is a joke. The AU does what America wants. Zionist organizations masquerading as humanitarians want to help Darfur secede from Khartoum( Secession for Darfur would definitely spell reliance on foreign powers for their sovereignty, positioning some foreign power with access and influence over Darfur oil reserves). This suggests Neo Con imperialists are tied to the Darfur rebels somehow. It is known Israel supported and trained SPLA forces and southern Sudanese for decades through Uganda with Kenyan knowledge. Obviously, the Darfur rebels had to recieve weapons, money, etc. from somewhere.

But again, There are world powers at play in Darfur, Chad, Kenya, throughout Africa, vying for resources and influence. (There are several 1000 French troops in Chad as well as 2 major French air bases)

Is increased American influence a solution?

Why should I trust America with its Neo Con led American foreign policy agenda? John Mc Cain has said "there will be more wars" and Obama said he will authorize invading Pakistan or any other country to catch Al Qaida. Mc Cain even joked about bombing Iran. Hillary too looks more like Lieberman in her voting.

These are words of imperialists and future American imperial foreign policies. Not to mention the new AFRICOM, set to be a BONANZA and JACK POT for American military contractors, where 100s of billions (why not a trillion?) in US tax dollars will go to US military contractors for all kinds of development programs in Africa with shady backroom deals, negligent oversight, and superficial accountability which the American public will know little to nothing about.

Quite frankly, there are new forces within the Muslim world which seek to revive nobility and righteousness in governance FREE of foreign interference, LIBERATED from foreign occupation and usurpation. Bashir, his generals, and the Janjaweed must be brought to justice by the Sudanese and Muslim world, not by the International European Court of World Domination and Suppression of Coloreds & Islam Masquerading as Justice.

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