Re: Baptists didnt massacre unarmed people
by
RML
12/20/2007, 11:49 PM
Your faith doesnt give you the right to kill, but your leaders DO have the right. Brigham Young DID know about the massacre-the facts when not doctored up by Mormon interpretation clearly state that it was a very orderly and carefully planned event-not some random frontier event. The white flag, the Indians there to take the blame, etc were all clearly indications of a plan-not a random event.
Yes, extremists of all kinds, including Baptists, indeed did some awful stuff, but nothing on the scale of Mountain Meadows and certainly nothing with the cold and cunning organization and treachery of it. Mountain Meadows is better compared to Hitler and the systematic extermination of the Jews-it has the same organization, the same deception of fellow humans (the white flag of truce, the agreement to disarm in return for safe passage), and the same outcome. Clearly you dont see the difference between a random witch hunt of the nature of tar and feather, lynching, etc and the extermination of unarmed people after being lured into that state thinking they were dealing with civilized fellow believers in God. Certainly no Mormon was offerred safe passage under a flag of truce before being lynched.
Young sent his representative-Lee-to organize the Indians. The Indians were there for a very specific reason-to take the blame in place of the real perps-the mormons.
Yes, you may be ashamed of the event-but stop trying to distance yourself from it and stop trying to pretend the church wasnt involved-it was. WHO organized the Indians? Who distributed the children who were spared to Mormon families to be raised as Mormons after their parents, brothers, and sisters were murdered in cold blood? WHO? The church and the church leaders. It was no random event-it was a cold and calculated massacre which is conveniently not spoken of-it isnt in most history books-you need to research it. It is an event which because of its religious ties is often forgiven by our own government, but it is an event which shouldnt be forgotten and it is an event which indeed points to the mormon church as its organizer and as a complicit aspect of the attempted cover up which followed it.
There can be absolutely NO justification for the massacre-no explaining it away as a paranoid action by a small group of rouge mormons-the LDS church was especially close in those days and the paranoia was justifiable as the US government was chasing them. To deny that the church was intimately involved is to be blissfully ignorant of the reality of that event and to ignore the many facts which point to an elaborate planned massacre complete with cover up-Saddam Hussein would be proud of Young and Lee's work.
LDS has a hold on its people which goes beyond mere worship-it extends to control of the minds and the will of its people. The elders are given a level of respect which is above others including our own laws as evidenced by the ample efforts which mormons of today often do to avoid the laws of the US government.
LDS has been trying desperately to spin the massacre-but how can you spin this act of pure cruelty? A white flag of truce, a promise of safe passage, and a massacre. The lies told to the local Indians to both make them aid the LDS militia and then be the scapegoats. What would Jesus do? Would Jesus disarm the settlers? Would Jesus lie to the Indians? Would he bear false witness to blame the Indians? Which part of the tale makes this OK? What justifies it? And WHY did the church not volunteer ALL the murderers but merely kill Lee to appease the public? No LDS involvement? Only if you are ignorant and or very naive.