RML:

We have a government that lies to us and a culture which encourages the law of the jungle among humans (replace the word "fittest" with "best-armed"). We need to be afraid of our government, afraid of crime, afraid of terrorists, afraid of the end of the world, afraid of aliens, afraid of leaving the house.

And when we have a Columbine or other such event, the first ones to jump up and say it isnt their fault is the gun makers and the NRA to he sure our very right to be a gun nut is protected.

Yes, Finland has guns and gun owners. But note the REASON-it is important. They are not trying to shoot the neighbor because his stereo is too lud. They are not looking for Bin Laden under their bed. They are not preparing fir' armageddon. They are getting their food.

Gun people always like to point to Michael Moore as a "gun grabber" and anti-gun people always then jump to defend him. Mostly forgetting that the conclusion he came to in his movie is that it isn't the availability of guns in America that makes us so unique in our murder rate; it must be something in our culture.