Esox88:

Seems medicare and the VA system are doing just fine and they are government run...want to try again?

I don't need too, since you're talking about insurance in the case of medicare and an entirely different system in terms of the VA, although the VA is indeed government run healthcare and I know of no one, and I know people in the VA system, who likes it.

Maybe you should try again, and this time maybe come up with a coherent counter argument "spanky".