While I find OneTokeUnder's ramblings to be a little more vehement than I would put it, I would like to stand up and be counted.

I am angry that at least 1/3 of Americans were horrified and bothered to recognize that the UN and we as individuals had uncovered all of the discrepancies between fact and Bush's fiction, PRIOR to our Senator's voting AS ONE ... to go to war against Iraq. I am angry that WE knew this to be fiction, but our senators choose to say, "I believed him. He lied, and I believed him." What gross negligence! Bush lied, and WE didn't believe him, and it doesn't make us feel a damned bit happy to find that we were right!

I do not want to vote for a person who was a part of that, and it was why I was ambivalent when Kerry lost. I will vote for Clinton if she ends up running, because I am horrified at what the Republicans are evidently offering. But she will not be an effective president. Too many of us remain angry with her, for that vote. Too many others see her as manipulative and downright wicked. She shouldn't be running. If she becomes our president, we will have another four to eight years of Americans hating each other, and being incapable of coherent political thought.