rampart wrote the following post at 08/16/2007 9:39 AM: Lacking interest in your link to torture porn is not a serious indication that I support circumcision. You either/or true believers really take the cake. I am sure you don't get invited to many parties. Wow, you seem unable to address the central issue of the amount of pain and torment caused by the procedure. You called it "torture porn", which is an insight into your mind, not mine. I only post it in the hopes of never putting another baby through that again. Some issues don't have grey areas; routine infant circumcsion is one of them. It is flat out wrong. And how many parties I get invited to is an incredibly lame "argument" point. But then again, trying to defending the indefensible will do that.