enter the fray: our reader discussion forum
Re: disgusting, despicable lies and the people who believe t
by SalientMan

You hear all of his pretty words and watch him pontificate on his many virtues and you swoon and chant "change!" And yet you refuse to look at the fact that he has stated exactly the reasons he is unfit to lead

Actually, Penny, I ignored both pretty words and pontifications and focused on the candidates' policies and found out that Obama was the person I agreed with more. I find McCain less fit to lead. But that's why we have elections: so different people can express their different opinions.

for starters a President is REQUIRED to uphold the constitution. Obama has already stated that America's constitution needs to be changed to offer redistribution of wealth

If changing the constitution is unpresidential, Penny, then if you are a woman, I hope you will not vote, in the spirit of solidarity with the original constitution, which denied women the right to vote. I also look forward to your denying freedom of speech, the press, religion, and the right to bear arms: all unpresidential changes to the Constitution!

he has lied about whether he would accept public funding during the campaign

McCain lied that he would not debate Obama until the financial crisis was solved. It isn't, but he did. Pants on fire!

whether he would run a campaign free from negativity

I have yet to see an attack ad from Obama attacking McCain personally. I have seen negative attacks on McCain's policies. However, several personal attacks have come from McCain/Palin (mostly Palin) against Obama.

He has NO apparent knowledge of how small businesses work, and apparently his handlers didn't clue him on the fact that we small business owners don't pay capital gains taxes.

Funny thing, I'm a small business owner, and I DO pay capital gains taxes on capital gains from my investments. So count me out of your statement, please.

He said he had Christian values and yet voted to allow abortion survivors to die without comfort.

This, of course, is not true (who was the liar, again?). Obama actually did not vote in favor of any bill of this kind. What he did was not support a proposed Illinois regulation that would have forced all abortion survivors to receive medical care. The reason he did not support this regulation is that all abortion survivors in Illinois receive medical care ANYWAY under existing laws.

He has said he will sit down with terrorist leaders without preconditions.

No, he said he will meet with leaders of other countries (NOT "terrorist" leaders) without preconditions (you lied AGAIN!). And what's wrong with that? Our 30-year embargo of Cuba hasn't worked. Neither did invading Vietnam. Nor bombing Iraq. Maybe it's time to try some diplomacy for a change?

He will deny our soldiers the victory they deserve.

How can you say this? Are you a military strategist? When neither Bush nor McCain has been able to define successfully what "victory" is, how can you say it will be "denied?" This comment makes no sense.

His campaign has consistently participated in Chicago style thug tactics to tread upon people who disagree with Obama's liberal ideas.
Umm...if you're referring to the McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh, that story has been exposed as fraudulent. Otherwise, I know of no case in which the Obama campaign has used "thug" tactics. Please cite evidence, if you have it.

What more do you need? A swastika on his suit?

Wait...first he's a socialist, now he's a fascist? They're opposite ends of the political spectrum! Not to mention, a black guy is hardly likely to be a neo-Nazi. You really have no clue whatsoever, do you?

View complete thread