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Re: I'm a conservative elitist, okay?
by DelayedKarma

You're either being disingenuous or you weren't very good at making your point in the first post. In that post you said:

No, the primary difference in approach between liberals and conservatives is this: Liberals tend to believe that those who have received a specialized higher education are most qualified to lead and the rest of us should just trust their judgement while conservatives tend to believe that those who are educated in areas I am not are useful consultants to help me make informed decisions in my own best interest.

This is not the same point as:

...liberals tend to think that if the majority disagrees with their opinions, then that just proves the majority are stupid/narrow-minded/uneducate­d/bigots (you choose the correct label for the situation) and their wishes should be ignored.

or

We are both arguing that it is the liberals who tend to set themselves up as the unquestionable authorities.

The only way these are the same point is if you are claiming that all people who have recieved higher education are liberals, which I don't think you are.

All your doing is throwing out one theory, then the next, then the next, without much thought about reality. The check on whether the theory is true isn't with reality, it's with whatever preconcieved notions you have in your head about conservatives and liberals. Conservatives do this, liberals do that. It's just a bunch of BS. You say liberals have given up on persuasion and resorted to coercion, but do you really not see conservatives doing the same. Liberals may pass smoking bans and trans-fat bans (which I don't necessarily agree with), but conservatives try to pass abortion and gay marriage bans. Both sides think they're fixing a societal problem while the other side is infringing on personal choice and responsibility.

Both sides coerce when they can because persuasion doesn't seem to work. I think the reason is that too many people are taking on their political beliefs as their identity (like naming yourself "The True Conservative" on a message board, for example). When you do that you're closing yourself off to pursuasion. Now I don't just have to change your mind on an issue, I have to change who you are. That's a much more difficult task.

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