Constantius,

I just noticed you snuck this post in.

I think the debate on Iran may be over - at least on this thread. There's just too much that neither Neolefty nor anyone else can state with certainty anyway so it all breaks down into conjecture

How truly Orwellian. 16 intelligence agencies produce a report concluding that there is no evidence of Iran having a nuclear wepoans program and you dismiss this as conjecture on the basis that it's impossible to prove somethign doesn't exist.

The most important conclusion of the NIE is that it considers the Iranian leadership to be rational and swayed by the cost benefit of embarking on a nuclear weposn prorgam.

What you have amply demonstrated Constantius is that you are among those in the community who is just begging to be lied and conned into another war. Even with the benfit of the "intel failure" of Iraq, you and Oldschool are rushing head first into being fooled a second time, and what's more, you're proud of it.

Then again, this is from someone who's diet of information comes from the likes of Rush Limbaugh. I suppose Michael Savagae is too much of a Communist for your tastes?