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Re: folks, if you are trule interested
by Split-S

You're wrong. Everyone’s intelligence did not say the same thing. Wll you heard was what we were saying.

Where is your evidence? I remember watching the UN deliberations and I remember the argument being over what to do about Saddam, not whether he was dangerous.

Let me remind you. Dick Cheney on meet the press in November of 2002. He said that by attacking Iraq, we were striking at the the geographic heart of those that attacked us on 911.

That is not entirely untrue, Iraq is the geographic heart of those who attacked us. Iraq is smack-dab in the middle of the ME in between Saudi Arabia an Afghanistan. What he said was correct, how others (the news) misinterpret his statement is not his fault. Also, there were many cases for war that I thought more compelling than AQ or democracy, I think that the violations of UN resolutions such as building ballistic missiles that were over the limits set by the UN was reason enough. The Nazis and the Japanese did the same thing, in the 1930s building ships that were over the limits by the treaty of Versailles, nobody did anything. Resolutions are useless if not strictly enforced.

Iraq and AQ were enemies of each other.

Please, I’ve heard this over and over, but the only evidence is that they claimed to have hated each other. What wars have they fought against each other? AQ was not affected one bit by Saddam. If Saddam hated AQ so much why didn’t Iraq ask to join us in Afghanistan to take them out? Look, groups that hate each other often band together against a common enemy. Examples: USSR helping UK and USA against the Nazis; Nazis (hated other races and Catholics) allied with Catholic Italy and non-white Japan in WWII. Whether someone says the “hate” someone is of no consequence when a more hated common enemy exists.

Empires are brutal, ruthless and self serving. They are greedy and viracious in their appetite for power and control. Sadly, empires all fail and we are seeing that today.

Well, everything has a lifespan empire or not. I have no problem with being an empire. You focus on all that is bad about an empire but ignore the enormous good. Look how much aid our “evil” empire spreads around the world. I am an immunologist and I would hate to think about what would be going on in Africa now in terms of AIDS if there was no “evil” USA around and it was left up to everyone else. Our empire does enormous good, as I said you would be hard pressed to find a more benevolent empire. Sure, we are far from perfect and I am not suggesting we are flawless by any means, but if the US were to not exist tomorrow, the world gets a lot more “brutal, ruthless and self serving”. Like I said, Rome was pretty ruthless, but when it fell the dark ages insured, backwards, ruthless, brutal and disgusting. I chose Rome any day over that.

As for your valiant efforts in Iowa, I applaud you guys. In fact, it represents a very good example of how we need to take back this country and reassert our own responsibility. It wasn't the Fed's that came to your rescue, it was your own community.

Thanks friend! Well, we do agree on something, how about that!

It is you that decides your livelyhood and your future…

Especially this part.

I don’t let the Fed tell me who my enemies are, I can accept that I may be wrong but I do think for myself as I am sure you do (I could turn it around and say don’t let Amy Goodman and college professors tell you who your enemies are either, but I trust you come to your own conclusions).

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