bandy_etc:

I don't think he was and he is known as the greatest wartime president the world has ever seen.

So you are correct. and I am correct..

I rest our case.

bandy

Former Secretary of the Navy and he had good people.

You offer Clinton and FDR, I offer Wilson, LBJ, Reagan, and Bush.

On the other side would be TR, Truman, Ike, JFK, Carter, Big George. Nixon would be the exception, but he inherited LBJ's war.

Look at the folks here. The biggest cheerleaders are RickieRetard, Man-Dater, and Bandit.

My worry on Barry is that he'll try to prove his manhood, like Little George and others did, by doing something stupid. Seems to happen more often with slackers and reservists, less often with regular veterans.