Really say anything about our health care system. The first one was just a ranked list -- what was the criteria? It said nothing.

The second list showed that Americans don't live as long. But where's your evidence that's due to our health care system and not due to our murder rate, our out-of-control drug use...etc? I gave specific evidence that our health care system is better at keeping cancer patients alive; that's an apples-to-apples comparison. You take a result (Americans don't live as long) and use that to jump to a conclusion (the American health care system is to blame), which is illogical.

I could just as easily say that the European unemployment rate is 12% and that's because they are spending so much money on health care that they can't attract any jobs due to the high tax rate. One may have nothing to do with the other -- but it maks my point, right?