And that objective proof of god's existence is...?
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JGC
07/17/2008, 10:04 AM
“No one living can know for certain there is a God.”
>>Seems a straightforward and accurate statement to me. If you believe otherwise, please explain exactly how one can conclusively prove the existence of a god or gods.
“No one living can know for certain anything about God.”
>>Again this seems accurate—one may believe things about god, but that doesn’t represent certain knowledge of god.
“ God, if He exists, has never revealed any eternal truths to any of his subjects, no matter what they may claim otherwise.”
>>God may have—unfortunately there’s no reliable method to distinguish between an eternal truth that was revealed by god and something one only believes to be an eternal truth revealed by god.
“My conclusion: You and Andrew Sullivan do not know what you are talking about. Just because there are 5 main religions that claim 5 different eternal truths or understandings of God --- in no way, does the fact 4 have to be wrong mean the 5th one has to be wrong, too.”
>>I agree, but your point is irrelevant. No one is arguing that because 4 of the other ‘main’ religions must be false all 5 must be false, there’s simply noting that the premise any of them are true is supported only by subjective personal faith.
“There is a thing called truth --- for example either Jesus is the Son of God or He is not. You claim that can never be known. I claim you the one with the hubris.”
>>Then tell us all exactly how the premise Jesus was the son of a particular can be
Credibly established to be factually accurate.
“Just because you do not know some things for certain does not mean that God has not let others know those things for certain.”
>>Just because you believe god has let others know things for certain doesn’t mean what those others believe god’s let them know for certain are true.