Re: So, is miscarriage murder?
by
DBuss
07/09/2008, 8:01 AM
Outlaw the home pregnancy test? No way. You
don't outlaw something with a legitimate purpose just because it can be used by
some people for an illegal one…
Remember saying “difficult choices” and “almost
anything is worth it”? You’re engaged in
a grand plan to take power away from women and give it to the State. Knowledge is power, so keeping women ignorant
is strongly in your interests.
Anyway, women have a right to know what is
going on with their body and to make informed medical decisions.
Same comment, and preventing informed medical
decisions is the entire purpose of what you’re trying to do.
…if I think I'm shooting at a deer but my
eyesite is bad and really I just took out poor Joe Smith, well, that's not
exactly murder.
Correct, it’s manslaughter or negligent homicide
or something. So instead of life in prison
you should be facing 10 years or so.
…Judith Jarvis Thomson essay…
No clue what you mean here.
…once you're at cruising altitude, you can't
kick them out until you land - even if they were trespassing.
If the person trespassing is threatening to
kill you, and if their presence is Automatically going to result in fairly serious
medical side effects on you, then you probably do. More to the point if we’re giving the government
the power to force someone to use their body to the benefit of someone else,
then the kidney example is more on point.
I think that pregnancy is a lot like the
situation between conjoined twins.
This implies an equality that isn’t
present. The women doesn’t *need* the
fetus, or benefit from the arrangement, and she *will* suffer health consequences
up to and including a risk of death. I’ve
watched my wife go through this several times, even when everything goes well
the side effects are non-trivial.
Let’s just review the 13th amendment
to the Constitution. Neither
slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of
the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States,
or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Again, I’m a person, I have the right to
live, and if I need one of your organs to the point where I’ll die if I don’t
get it, I’m out of luck. Even if life
begins at conception (and that’s a political, not scientific view), a person
doesn’t have the right to inflict servitude and long term health problems on
someone else. This is true even if they’re
going to die if they don’t do it.