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Re: So, is miscarriage murder?
by DBuss
Outlaw the home pregnancy test? No way. You don't outlaw something with a legitimate purpose just because it can be used by some people for an illegal one…

Remember saying “difficult choices” and “almost anything is worth it”? You’re engaged in a grand plan to take power away from women and give it to the State. Knowledge is power, so keeping women ignorant is strongly in your interests.

Anyway, women have a right to know what is going on with their body and to make informed medical decisions.

Same comment, and preventing informed medical decisions is the entire purpose of what you’re trying to do.

…if I think I'm shooting at a deer but my eyesite is bad and really I just took out poor Joe Smith, well, that's not exactly murder.

Correct, it’s manslaughter or negligent homicide or something. So instead of life in prison you should be facing 10 years or so.

…Judith Jarvis Thomson essay…

No clue what you mean here.

…once you're at cruising altitude, you can't kick them out until you land - even if they were trespassing.

If the person trespassing is threatening to kill you, and if their presence is Automatically going to result in fairly serious medical side effects on you, then you probably do. More to the point if we’re giving the government the power to force someone to use their body to the benefit of someone else, then the kidney example is more on point.

I think that pregnancy is a lot like the situation between conjoined twins.

This implies an equality that isn’t present. The women doesn’t *need* the fetus, or benefit from the arrangement, and she *will* suffer health consequences up to and including a risk of death. I’ve watched my wife go through this several times, even when everything goes well the side effects are non-trivial.

Let’s just review the 13th amendment to the Constitution. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Again, I’m a person, I have the right to live, and if I need one of your organs to the point where I’ll die if I don’t get it, I’m out of luck. Even if life begins at conception (and that’s a political, not scientific view), a person doesn’t have the right to inflict servitude and long term health problems on someone else. This is true even if they’re going to die if they don’t do it.

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