Des: There is no "right to live" for the fetus. If you beat up a pregnant woman, and she miscarries, you are charged based on a tort harm to the woman.

I’d thought that some states were amending that so Prosecutors could bring separate charges?

MWG: If the woman really believes - as you suggest - that the child is of value, that it really is a human life that will be taken if she aborts, then I believe most women will only abort in extreme circumstances.

How many female relatives and friends do you have? More than 20? Statistics being what they are, chances are very good at least one of them has had an abortion. Chances are also good that women define “extreme circumstances” a lot differently than you want them to.

Unfortunately, to justify abortion, the "pro-choice" propaganda has had to remove mention of the unborn child from the discussion.

Abortion isn’t something thought up by Big Business and inflicted on society. It exists because women want some control over their bodies, their lives, and their finances.

Framed that way, abortion is a matter of convenience, just another birth control method, no big deal at all.

I suspect very few women view it as "no big deal".

50 Million killed in circumstances probably not all that different from 50 million of the 100 million who lived.

Meaning in your view, they are making the wrong choice. Similarly, more people should donate kidneys. Speaking of which, have you donated one of yours? Have you signed up to do so?

Des: Just on death rate alone, the CDC data is 1.7 deaths per 100,000 for delivery vs. 0.6 deaths attributed to abortion… carrying to term has a 300% HIGHER DEATH RATE than abortion.

I suspect even these stats exaggerate the risks of abortion. Birth is *always* major medical, abortion is only *sometimes*.

Most woman that have an abortion are going to try again and they will be under a lot more stress because of guilt and sin.

You say this like it’s a bad thing. I suspect women who abort understand very well what they’re letting themselves in for, and having weighed the advantages and disadvantages they do it anyway.

The stereotypical situation is someone who doesn’t want to become an un-wed mother and will wait until she’s married.

For society (and for them), this is a good thing. If someone thinks they’re not ready to be a mother, well, maybe we should believe them. Alternatively, if someone thinks they already have enough children, maybe we should believe them too.

Anyone knows it's safe to bring someone into the world of the living…

Huh? Having watched my wife go through this several times, “safe” isn’t a word I’d use. “Absurdly stressful” would be a better choice, as would “unsafe”.