Re: Could all 50 States be Wrong
by
Nanotech
07/06/2008, 9:45 PM
Uncle_Spike:
Once again you ignore uncomfortable questions for you Nano. The message has been thoroughly refuted many times already, and since you posted the site as something of interest I asked you what was so interesting that made it valuable or interesting?
Yes, I also questioned the expertise of the person responsible for the site since they have none in the field..so why should she be viewed as a reputable resource for anything?
She states "America's founders did not intend for there to be a separation of God and state, as shown by the fact that all 50 states acknowledge God in their state constitutions"
Thomas Jefferson himself shows that to be incorrect in his letter to the Danbury Baptists:
"Gentlemen,-The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association give me the highest satisfaction. . . . Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Which was quoted in both the decision for the 1878 case Reynolds v. United States and the 1947 case Everson v. Board of Education.
We can see further evidence of Jefferson's view on the matter in the text of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom which he authored, which again disagrees with both you and the author of the site...but hey, guess actually looking at facts would get in the way of the quote mining and would be attacking the messanger or some other such nonsense.
A little context would be nice wouldn't it? Jefferson was answering a letter from the Danbury Baptist. They were concerned that the new national government would step on their already established "State Religion". Strange how that little fact keeps getting left out. The phrase was never used in law until Black's decision in 1947 to keep the Catholics out of the government. Since when has a letter been law? Never.