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Re: what a sad state of affairs
by ghost

Doc Holliday:
Who says that what you call "virtue" is really a virtue? Just because it is a "virtue" to you doesn't mean it is to everyone. I don't hold what you describe as "virtue" to be virtues - and I am a Evangelical Christian.

Odd. I'd explicitly singled out honesty and forgiveness as virtues. But I would throw self-control in there as well. I try earnestly not to make up my own. My sources for this stuff tend to be Jesus and the Apostles. You can read about them in that book your Evangelical Christian pastor is always quoting from.

Doc Holliday:
Abandoning realistic sex education - and abstinence is not "realistic" - in order of "hope and pray" is not only illogical, it is stupid. The drive to reproduce is stronger than any "abstinence" program can ever be.

Hope and prayer are illogical and stupid? At any rate, I wrote only to advocate abstinence and self-control, not to defend this or that sex ed program. I have absolutely no confidence that public schools will effectively teach my children morality.

Doc Holliday:
And attempting to "manage" it through the social institution of marriageis futile.

Are you a swinger? Polygynist? Does your choice of modifiers reveal that you view marriage as a man-made, rather than God-created, institution, or am I just reading into things?

Doc Holliday:
To try to do so is insane and only results in ruined lives...

Your life was in tatters before you started swinging? Weirdly, I've never read anywhere about families torn apart because the parents decided to remain faithful to each other.

A moral relativist swinger who disparages hope and prayer: not strong Evangelical Christian credentials. But I assume you claimed to be so for the purposes of your argument, supposing that we Evangelical Christians are given over easily to claims of Evangelical Christian authority.

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