"Those on the logical side of the Vietnam generation remember that we won every battle, but lost the war at home because of weak kneed and indecisive leadership here at home. Rather than listen to Eisenhower (military genius), Kennedy listened to his advisors that had no military experience. Rather than fighting to win he fought to not lose, which is the best way to make sure that you do in fact lose. Johnson simply continued and escalated the mistakes made by Kennedy. Those on the overly emotional side of the Vietnam generation were against war, any war, regardless of the reason or circumstances. They simply embarrassed themselves."

"We went to war against North Vietnam to come to the aid of our South Vietnamese ally."

"Won every battle" means setpiece battles and, to be sure, we won every setpiece battle that happened. The problem was that neither the VC nor the NVA were quit stupid enough to expose themselves very often to setpiece conditions. Guerilla warfare (both the political and military parts of it) is what they did best and they very definitely did win that war.

I suggest a history lesson or two, maybe read a history of the time, so that you know what really happened since your account of things leaves much to be desired. Among others, the Tonkin Gulf incident, upon which the Tonkin Gulf Resolution was based and which utlimately served as the rationale for wholesale expansion of the war, was a fabrication. Eisenhower had very little to do with how the war was fought, and Kennedy, had he survived, likely would have withdrawn American advisors. Finally, more Americnas were killed and wounded after Nixon was in office than before.

I'm guessing, then, Bananaboat, that you were in the hole next to mine during one of the countless firefights and ambushes in which we got our asses kicked and lost more guys than I want to count. Oh wait, guess not. You were that chickenshit bastard that got himself REMFed back to white sheets, porcelein, and air conditioning in DaNang.

Enjoy your day at the mall.