oxboggle,

So what you're saying is that, now that Obama has the nomination, he can stop blatantly pandering and speak honestly. He can reverse the claims he built his campaign around. He can basically say, Oh, did I say 16 months? Oh...I was just saying that, idiots. This is what I *really* meant.

AWESOME.

McCain has said we could be out by 2013. However, one does have to question that date--seems a little too close to, oh, I don't know, a re-election year.

In short, they both blow pretty hardcore. Which is why I'm not voting this year. And you referring to a Democratic opponent as "an ugly sore" just makes you look like a complete asshole. You do realize that such statements make you look like an idiot, no? You're not lending Obama any credence with your crazy ramblings (which I've debunked but you don't acknowledge) and your immature characterizations of a US Senator. You're...a douchebag? Why would I want to vote for the candidate supported by graceless douchebags who wouldn't know their face from their ass?