some of these guys actually think that they can negotiate with Islam...they still do not understand what they issues are. It's not oil, it's not territory, it's not even religion in general it is .... Jihad..... nothing more and nothing less.

They will begin to understand it when their children are beheaded before their eyes....it will begin to sink in a little then.

The only hope for avoiding this particular scenario is to appeal to the secular branches of the Middle east and there are precious few of those at this point that are not somehow tainted by Islamic thought...the next big struggle in that region will be between the secularists who are outnumbered and outgunned and the religious extremists.

jo