Re: West Virginia and Hillary
by
the_slasher14
05/15/2008, 2:50 PM
Michigan and Florida weren't denied their right to anything by Obama. They were denied their right to have their primaries count by the DNC -- rightly or wrongly -- and if Clinton thought this was wrong she never said so until AFTER it became clear she couldn't win the popular vote without them?
What she is trying to do is the equivalent of a baseball team demanding that spring training games be counted, now that it needs them in order to win the pennant. The games wouldn't be counted because, when they were played, both sides agreed they wouldn't count and used their resources accordingly. It is a lie to state that Obama has disenfranchised anyone at all, and a fraud to state that either primary represents anything real. And if you have an honest bone in your body, you know full well that if the situation were reversed and Obama were being prevented from using MI and FL votes, you feel exactly as I do.
As for the caucus process: hey, the rules were known to both sides in advance, and if there was such rampant cheating, why haven't we heard any complaints (other than a few in TX, where Clinton won)? It is, of course, true that delegates are allocated disproportionally to primary votes in caucus states, but everyone knew this in advance. The reason Obama was able to win these states so decisively is he ACTED on that knowledge and got his people to the meetings. This is legal, you know, and it's also an indication of the level of enthusiasm of your people, which has relevance in the fall. He did his homework. Clinton, on the other hand, was so sure she'd be the presumptive nominee after Super Tuesday that she ignored the caucus states, and got her lunch eaten.
According to my math, Obama has roughly 52% of the delegates and roughly 51% of the voters, if you don't count the phony MI and FL primaries, which any fair-minded person would agree you shouldn't count. So how is the caucus skew so decisive here?
The plain fact is your candidate ran a horseshit campaign, based upon the assumption that name recognition, money, and party leader support would put her decisively ahead on Super Tuesday. She was out-maneuvered by Obama and his people -- hey, that's life. But even she hasn't stooped to calling Obama a cheater. It took you to do that.
Shameful.