SusanM:

You've been all over the board in the last week yelling about how kids have no rights. That is a pretty black and white statement. You are telling kids that they have to suffer without any qualifications on that statement or interest in what they are actually suffering.

You have been all other the board as well (and since when are you the board monitor?) heavy sighing about the suffering of those who have to listen to their mothers, drink 2% milk or get their hot sauce in the wrong bottle. I think you have to look up the word suffering.

Also, Messy is many things, but an advocate for child abuse? Come on. That's not funny:)