The people in power in the Dem party were there when Gingrich, then Bush took over. There were there while Gingrich & Bush wreaked their havoc, there were there when the Dems took back Congress and changed nothing. And they are still there now. They also still all get their money fom the same corporate interests as well.

So, what evidence, EVIDENCE (as opposed to audacious hope), do you have that a Dem victory will result in an appreciable change in any of this?

What evidence do you have that merely being "better than Bush" is good enough, and is not still a disaster for this country?

As a progressive, what I want to see is the removal of corrupt corporatists from BOTH parties. Until then, we are just debating rate of decay, not reversal of trend.