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Re: I think we have to face the facts
by Isabel76
kristin9692:

And the facts are simply this: there is a shortage of dinner-party ready, socially competent, genteel and educated men.

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Have we considered that our oversexed, promiscuous culture of immediate gratification has perhaps led men to being underdeveloped socially. Certainly, there is every opportunity for a man with the slightest amount of charm to get a bedroom date for the evening, so he really doesn't have to go around exceeding anyone's expectations.

Here here kristin9692

II was guilty of this myself, but we women who got into dating like men in our 20's, getting into 'hook-ups' and casual friends-with-benefits situations based on sexual chemistry, and trying to create relationships out of sexual attraction are simply training the most attractive, charming men that they don't have behave any differently than they would like to, and what comes easiest to them.

When we grow out of that phase in our 30s, we then run into the problem of facing the very monsters we ourselves created, if we're not too busy being confused about why our dating lives are growing more and more unfulfilling and keep trying to get different results with the same behaviour.

We made our beds, we have to lie in them or finally learn how to properly make hospital-corners.

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