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Dick Cheney is above the law because he was V.P.?
by another_liberal

When will this despicable old liar finally be indicted? We all can surmise he richly deserves to stand in front of a federal judge. Why is the Obama Justice Department covering for him?

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Why aren't we able to even see what lying crap he told Fitzgerald? All of this concern about future Vice Presidents and other high administration officials not cooperating with investigations is utterly unconvincing. One Obama lawyer even went so far as to suggest such revelations might contribute to, ". . . an increased likelihood that such officials could feel reluctant to participate."

Pardon me? Twelve years ago President Clinton was thoroughly, "reluctant to participate," but that didn't prevent Ken Star and "The House Managers" from forcing him to testify about such things as peculiarities in the appearance of his penis, nor did it stop them from including such fucking bizarre testimony in the Congressional Record!

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington hit the nail on the head:

"Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, responded yesterday with a statement that the Justice Department has subpoenaed such officials without difficulty in the past. 'It is astonishing that a top Department of Justice political appointee is suggesting other high-level appointees are unlikely to cooperate with legitimate law enforcement investigations. What is wrong with this picture?' said Melanie Sloan, head of the group."

Get off the dime, Holder, indict Cheney now!

Re: Dick Cheney is above the law because he was V.P.?
by JackDallas

Any crimes that Cheney may have committed (and I am not convinced he did any) pale into insignificance in the light of all that Urkel and his mob are doing to destroy our constitution.

The stool sample currently masquerading as president is a far greater criminal than any you can create in your simple mind.

Jack

It is highly likely
by artandsoul

that publication of many of these documents would compromise any legal proceeding against Cheney.

This would explain why he is double-dog daring the Obama Administration to publish it.

Rather than simply assuming that everyone is an idiot and that no one knows how to do their job, it might be more responsible to see what kind of actual legal merit the DOJ might be trying to build in the various cases they are trying to win.

I don't know how extensively you have researched Cheney's actions as VP, but one of the amazing things he did was follow up nearly every single Executive Branch act with a legislative bill (passed by a willing Congress) and an Agency Regulation. Thus, his "Executive Orders" and various dealings are not fixed so easily as a simple rescision. Those that were have already been overturned.

But by following up with actual bills filed, shepherded through committee, passed by Congress and signed by the President it is impossible and highly unethical for the current administration to go in and simply wipe out that act. To make a change to some Cheney shit that has been codified by Congress and Regulatory Rule requires a lot more time and intelligence than that.

So try not to get so impatient. Cheney was a very serious person with an incredible grasp of the details.

Re: It is highly likely
by another_liberal

You make several good points, and, yes, after nine years of hearing Cheney tell the whole country to, "Go Fuck Yourself," I am impatient. I am also completely convinced that to allow this man to die peacefully in his own bed would be a terrible injustice, one that would do much harm to our nation.

BTW: I owe you a personal apology, for being so pointlessly hateful about your photo contest. You were correct, if I did not like it I should have made no comment and just let everyone else enjoy.

Re: Dick Cheney is above the law because he was V.P.?
by Boca

Reading your link even several times didn't reveal to me what you find so incriminating?

Could you point it out....specifically, calmly and rationally.?

No.
by DragonTat2
It's 'cause he was the CEO of Halliburton.
What Would Be the Charge?
by Urquhart

The issue discussed is whether the records of Cheney's conversations with Fitzgerald should be disclosed. Fitz obviously knew what those conversations were, and didn't find anything to prosecute. Not that he didn't try. The Libby case shows he was trying desperately to find something, anything to prosecute.

Are you suggesting that Fitzgerald is an ineffective prosecutor, or that he is corrupt?

Remember Casey.
by artandsoul

I'm sure he knew more about Iran-Contra and other dark aspects of the Reagan years and he died peacefully "of a brain tumor." I doubt Cheney is that much of a patriot.

On the other - thanks, and no worries.

Re: Dick Cheney is above the law because he was V.P.?
by another_liberal

You really do want to ruin my holiday weekend, don't you?

Anyway, where in the name of coma-like seclusion have you been for the entire Cheney/Bush era?

Re: No.
by another_liberal
Very good point.
I didn't think you could...
by Boca
thanks.
Re: What Would Be the Charge?
by another_liberal

Ambassador Wilson suggests treason might be a good place to start. I personally would like to see the statute (signed into law by George H. W. Bush) that provides for penalties up to and including death for revealing the identity of an active C.I.A. applied here.

Re: I didn't think you could...
by another_liberal

Get back to me Monday, son. We'll see then.

"Ambassador Wilson"
by Urquhart

Hehe.

So we come back to the point. Do you think Fitzgerald is corrupt or just incompetent?

Re: "Ambassador Wilson"
by another_liberal
Frankly, I can't imagine why Fitzgerald cracked (maybe for the first time in his career) and let Cheney off the hook, but it does appear he did. Maybe they threatened to send his wife and mother to Gitmo? Whatever they did, it seems to have worked so far.
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