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Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Toria
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Is it just me, or do you only hear the sort of misogynistic bullcrap like "Caucasian Women; No Thanks " from Western men? Western guys, why are you so afraid of women who have their own ideas, their own passions, and their own egos? That sounds like tremendous insecurity to me. The real reason men like techresmgt can't handle Caucasian girls isn't because they are less submissive than Asian girls, it's because most American women know that they can do better if they end up with someone as insecure as him (and dump him!). I guess in some pathetic individuals, this leads not to a reevaluation of their own flaws, but a rabid demonization of the group they felt wronged them (i.e. in this case, white girls). However, I fully believe that most Western guys aren't like him. I have dated and am friends with Western guys with lots of confidence, who would never demonize a whole race's women because of their own shortcomings. In fact, I think most men are confident, which is what most women (of any race) find attractive in them!

But, that said, I married an Asian guy because he's the most handsome, smart, and secure guy I ever dated. That, and no overcompensating misogyny! It's great, and I suggest all the ladies at least give dating Asian men a try. ^_~

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Junggai

Toria:
... Western guys, why are you so afraid of women who have their own ideas, their own passions, and their own egos?

Hmm, well my Korean wife fits your description to the T...Careful with those race-based assumptions!

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Toria

That is exactly what I mean! There are lots of great, non-insecure white guys who date Asian girls - who are not submissive! - and there are lots of great Caucasian girls who date Asians or white guys. I don't get why Caucasian women get specifically demonized by insecure guys, but I can only assume it's because of bad experiences (and this being the U.S., it's more likely than not those bad experiences were with Caucasians and then were generalized). What I mean by that sentence is that women DO have their own ideas, and guys who specifically say they don't date a certain race because they're too willful or whatnot are creeps!

However, I don't care if guys prefer Asian women's looks. To each his own (some gentlemen prefer blondes, etc). I married an Asian guy partly because I thought he was ridic handsome, after all!

On a side note, I bet you get spoiled by the tastiest food. I learned how to cook Korean from a couple of my Korean girlfriends and it's fiercely delicious. Too bad my husband's Japanese (if he were Korean, maybe I could make him cook it!).

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by businessanalyst
I'll agree that I've never met any submissive American women. Didn't really find any foreign ones either. I did find more over there with a different attitude toward life and what it is important in it. I think it's more cultural than racial.
Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by EarlyBird

When people think of a stereotypical submissive Asian woman, they are thinking culturally. I don't believe any sane person ascribes this characteristic - where it actually exists - on something innate to Asian genes.

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Toria

That's a really good viewpoint, businessanalyst. I personally am an eternal optimist, and so I find the Buddhist attitude that we aren't all born in sin to be a refreshing change from the Christian mores I was raised with. It's really true that you can find a great complement in another culture.

However, the extra work it takes to mke a cross-cultural marriage work can't be denied, either. I know I miss not automatically sharing cultural capital with my husband. He doesn't love football (much to my sadness), he doesn't like cold pizza, he never gets my jokes... He never even watched the Transformers cartoon movie (can you believe?!). That was formerly how I judged boyfriends (did they cry when Optimus Prime died? If so, they were both sensitive and nerdy enough ^_~). Tough not to have that!

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Ian Blokesworth

"The real reason men like techresmgt can't handle Caucasian girls isn't because they are less submissive than Asian girls, it's because most American women know that they can do better if they end up with someone as insecure as him (and dump him!)."

Agreed, though I think techresmgt is referring to the only Caucasian women he knows. American women have learned that they only need six years of marriage to produce children, dirvorce, obtain full custody of children and the lion's share of the assets and top it off with two decades of child support payments (alimony in disguise). The trouble is that this is the behavior of the *average* American woman.

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Junggai

Toria:
On a side note, I bet you get spoiled by the tastiest food. I learned how to cook Korean from a couple of my Korean girlfriends and it's fiercely delicious. Too bad my husband's Japanese (if he were Korean, maybe I could make him cook it!).

Very true. By marrying a Korean woman, I gave up potroast, but I'll take bulgogi and ton kasu anyday!

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by FirstInLastOut
Junggai:

Very true. By marrying a Korean woman, I gave up potroast, but I'll take bulgogi and ton kasu anyday!

Ton katsu is Japanese, dumbass. Wow, how culturally sensitive you are, you can't even figure out the difference between korean and Japanese.

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by kati

"Asian genes" "Asian race" ??????????????

Asia is a continent --how about looking it up and trying to count the number of different peoples and countries in it!

While you are at it you migth look up the US of A on a world map, you know, just to find out where you are.....

Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Liberal Patriot
Hmmm. Good question. I'll have to ask my wife. She's latina resident alien with a higher degree of learning than I have. And she is soooooo hot.
Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by gwailo_joe
Hey Pal. . .why you must be hatin'? Don't act so smart: you aint be knowin yo' fugu from yo' jiap che. . . . . . .
Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by zeleny
Toria:
The real reason men like techresmgt can't handle Caucasian girls isn't because they are less submissive than Asian girls, it's because most American women know that they can do better if they end up with someone as insecure as him (and dump him!).
An alternative reason to avoid handling Caucasian girls is their hairy limbs and smelly genitals.
Re: Caucasian Men: No Thanks!
by Junggai

FirstInLastOut:
Junggai:

Very true. By marrying a Korean woman, I gave up potroast, but I'll take bulgogi and ton kasu anyday!

Ton katsu is Japanese, dumbass. Wow, how culturally sensitive you are, you can't even figure out the difference between korean and Japanese.

Thanks for the snap judgment, asshole. Of course I know it's Japanese, but Koreans eat it all of the time too. It's part of my regular diet now, having married a Korean.

Glad you are happy, but...
by Freetrader2
you've managed to be racist to two distinct races (white men and asian women) in your post. Your personal experiece, and the stupidity of a few others gives you no right to stand on a soapbox and dictate the personal preferences of others. There are lots of physical generalizations of any race that are -- generally -- true, and non degustibus est disputatum (spelling) as the Romans used to say.
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