Re: John Edwards, looking the worst in the face
by
Madai
07/19/2007, 12:12 PM #
Well, 26, I'm not overlooking the fact that Edwards made "only" 30%. Considering the total amount of money he's made, "only 30%" makes me laugh.
"Your analysis of Orwell's 1984 is oversimplified to a fault."
I was only addressing a VERY small part of the world Orwell had created, and by no means "analyzing" it.
"The outer party was far from a middle-class."
I'm pretty sure that, in his own words, Orwell disagreed with you. One theme in 1984 and Animal Farm was that socialism promised to get rid of class and make everyone equal, but failed to deliver. There will always be a top, a middle, and a bottom, because power corrupts. There's many more morals to the story, but that was one them.
That is not to say that the "middle class" in America looks the same as the "middle class" in a totalitarian nightmare... just saying that there's always a middle.
"Further, I'd invite you to actually mount a challenge to Edward's argument that there are two Americas."
Simple!
First, there is the desperately poor, who are, all to often, struggling to raise children. the adults poverty rate in America is 10.6%, the child poverty rate is 16.6%, the senior poverty rate is 10.4%, last I checked. The numbers may have gone higher under Bush, but the ratio hasn't changed: a greater percentage of children live in poverty than adults. Meanwhile, if you look at the statistics, the sad facts are there is a racial pattern to them: unemployment and poverty is higher amongst blacks and mexicans than whites. The either rent, or have subprime loans. And haircuts in this America are free because they are done by a friend or relative.
Then, there is the middle class, which is by no means doing well, but, the kids aren't in poverty, and the parents are far more likely to have college degrees, and often student loan debt, a normal mortgage, stuff like that. They do exist, but on average they're older and perhaps a bit more overweight than the poor america, and content to watch cable TV and save for a somewhat comfy retirement. Haircuts in this America cost $20.
And then, there's the america John Edwards lives in. Self-employed. Vacation homes. Private jets. Caviar. Limosines. Stock Options. Yachts. Haircuts cost $400.
The middle class might not be as well off, but it's not "dissappearing".
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As you can see, the lowest quintile makes gets HALF the income of the second quintile. The rich might be getting richer, but the middle class is certainly not blurring into the poor.
There are at least three Americas, probably more. I'm middle class, and I'm a little pissed that Edwards is basically telling me I don't exist.