The following was forwarded to me this AM, hence the font. The subject is Australian Prime Minister John Howard's domestic policy view of radical Islam as it pertains to that country:

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you or your parents to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

You're only partly right. You should do your homework before posting.

Howard never said all this. Most of this is from an editorial written by a US vet.

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Regardless of the source, the content of the message makes common sense.

Yes. The brand of "Common Sense" that borders on unconstitutionality, primarily the First Amendment. Being an atheist, I have to listen to all of you "Good Christians" whine about your rights and then say "Get Out!" Especially that good, southern fried Jesus-wheezing brand of the KKK. Or the very slightly tamed idiots who promote this Iraqi skirmish so as to hasten Armegeddon and the Rapture. I would recommend that all Christians move out of the USA to Israel or Rome; but it would be as futile and nonsensical as the post. I prefer the method prescribed by your leader, in fact! Wasn't it him that said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God that which is God's"? Undoubtedly one of the most concise definitions of the separation of church and state. Why don't you follow it? And besides, I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC; and it is moments like right now when it is especially important to carry out that duty.

Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly is totally different than the freedom to carry out a creed of destroying non-believers. A fanatical group of people does not have the right to destroy others based on race or religion, and this goes for bloods, muslims, crips, nazis and the klan. And its right to lump the jihadists with the fundie cross burners and drive by gang bangers. I stand by the original post, and that if a group of religous zealots want to move into this country to excercise jihad then tip over the boat, sink it, and look the other way. Had enough of the religous right? Then don't stomp all over yourself by allowing more of the same to happen.

The point of the first amendment allows anyone to voice their opinion and worship or not, as they see fit without fear of recrimination or persecution and that is fine. It is by our laws that members of those fanatical groups, up to and including muslim fundementalists, who have perpetrated acts of terror were arrested, tried and either convicted or acquited.

But, if you don't wish to respect and live by the rules of our constitution, then I would recommend that you follow your own advice and leave; though I believe you should stay and learn to respect our laws without all that fear that appears to be clouding your judgement.

I think your opinion of me is what is clouding over. I do live here and respect and follow the rule of law. I am addressing those that don't, and fundamentalists that kill in the name of their god are not following the law and should be dealt with.

I also think it correct that if a leader wants to address the problem of terrorism, and advises those who intend to promote terrorist acts to leave that country, that is not violating anyone's rights or sensitivities.

I need not go into what you perceive as simple fear mongering. It is quite evident what is happening in the world and that certain groups of people have agendas to fulfill. The Quran has such an agenda stated.

The KKK, Black Panthers, bloods, crips, folk nation, etc. all have agendas and mission statements that are a lot more intolerant than what most Muslims believe. Yet those groups are ok by your standards because they were born in the USA, speak English (with some redneck or ebonic dialect), and claim their perverted social and moral values as Christian. Law abiding is a relative term -- in their eyes they are abiding by the laws they have created, be it "purity", "stop snitching", or "membership until death."

Requiring religious adheranace to maintain citizenship is exactly what the founding fathers did not want. They left Europe for that very reason, yet now one sect wants to establish a Church of America?

"The KKK, Black Panthers, bloods, crips, folk nation, etc. all have agendas and mission statements that are a lot more intolerant than what most Muslims believe."

If you read up the thread, you'll see where I've opined that these groups are no better than Islamo-facists.

It wasn't, in the original post, the adherance to Judeo-Christian values that prompted me to post. Even though the original post was fabricated from more than one source, the 'speaker' if you will was not trying to force a right-wing agenda, but was addressing the Islamic extremists that Christianity - which they are opposed to and direct their hatred - happens to be the religion of the majority of Australians. So, if the Islamists are opposed to this, then pack up and leave.

It addresses religious intolerance. Those that oppose Islam will die, chant the Islamists, and they are chanting this and acting upon it in their host countries.

That's such a ridiculous response. Say it yourself if the goal is simply common sense. Don't make up words and put them in other's mouths.

And don't believe every email that hits your inbox, otherwise I'll be sending you one that says you won the Nigerian lottery.

Our laws already address organizations that advocate the violent overthrow of the US government.

Not all Muslims advocate violence just like some Christians, notably Tim McVeigh, do.

Then apologies are in order for my part if I have misconstrued your statement. The laws do go both ways. An illegal alien in this country has absolutely no say whatsoever in matters of rights that he/she simply does not possess as an illegal. And for any of you illegals out there who are reading this, there is a vast difference between "illegal alien" and "Immigrant". Immigrants are here legally. And the only thing wrong with our immigration laws is their apparent lack of enforcement.

And anyone who may think they have a god-given right to kill me and my countrymen has yet to understand or witness the full wrath of the USA, or at least one of its citizens...I think I can muster a few hundred million who agree with me. but Mr. Bush utterly blew it with his lame response in Afghanistan and pathetic skirmish in Iraq. He should have just kept things quite, gathered intel, collaborated with MI and Mussad and then go on a Taliban-Al Queda assassination spree that would have wiped all but the women and children out.

We have yet to truly wage war in the middle east and now it is quite apparent that we can't trust republicans to lead in that arena.

But ALL humans have basic God-given rights as noted by the patriots who wrote the Declaration of Independence.

Those rights are inalienable and given by the creator. They include the right to life and liberty. Not to be tortured because your neighbor turned you in or your name sounds Muslim.

Adrasteia:

But ALL humans have basic God-given rights as noted by the patriots who wrote the Declaration of Independence.

Those rights are inalienable and given by the creator. They include the right to life and liberty. Not to be tortured because your neighbor turned you in or your name sounds Muslim.

I'm an atheist but I do recognize basic human rights. So I'm with you there and I agree that no one has the right to torture another anywhere at any time or be singled out and persecuted because their name equates to a religion.

While we're on the topic though, how many people have you met in your travels that had the last name "Hitler"? None for my part. I believe the name "Bin Laden" will follow suit or should. I hoping the Democrats will do what the ineffective idiot in the White House did not do. Massive clandestine ops against Taliban and Al Queda.

No, it is NOT a ridiculous response. Again, look at the original post, then THINK that if it were actually coming from the Australian Prime Minister, or the US President, how it is not an inflammatory disgrace in which you are so hastily ready to stamp it with.

It is no different than if you are not a Hindu that you would be in the wrong to immigrate to India and then parade around in the streets shouting 'death to all non-(enter your religion or whatever here)'. No one forced you to immigrate to India. You did so on your own cognisance and are expected to accept the norms/customs in that country.