Jade:

Since you are accusing me of attempting to discourage people from getting the HPV vaccination which I must have done by stating my opinion and it must have been a compelling opinion since you seem to be so threatened by it, here are some things I am sure you already know that they say about the vaccination.

"May guard against", "May not fully protect", "Will not treat", "Doesn't prevent all types".

It is a measure to attempt to guard women from getting 4 HPV virus strains which are the ones that cause 70% of cervical cancer and 90% of genital warts and it may not fully protect them from getting them. It will not treat them and doesn't prevent all of the HPV virus strains. I am not claiming that it is a bad thing even if I don't think they have totally proven that it prevents cervical cancer. If it prevents some of the people that are vaccinated from getting those strains, which in turn should prevent them from getting cervical cancer that is great. It is a personal choice which everyone has a right to make for themselves. I won't deny that it may end up being a cure but at this time I don't believe it would actually be considered a cure.

When you talk about the success of sex education, I guess I just don't get it. No Child Left Behind requires all children to be proficient in what they study. However, the liberal sex education program seems to come with some add ons. When their version of sex education didn't work, they said they had to teach about STD's. When that didn't work, they taught how to put condoms on. When that didn't work, they even gave condoms away. When they discovered kids weren't using them properly, they taught about birth control. When that didn't work, now they are giving away OC and trying to get all young girls to get the HVP vaccine.

And you have faith is such a system of planned failure. I am afraid I just don't have that much faith. All I have is the relationship with my daughter in teaching and modeling morals. Maybe you can explain why I should have more faith in your system of failure.

I am a little unclear on which Sexual Education programs you feel are failures much less a part of some liberal agenda? You certainly don't mean the successful programs that were undermined by the Faith-Based Abstinence Only progams in place in many regions now do you?

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Abstinence only without morals doesn't work, true, but then I never mentioned any of the programs you linked.

But I am curious why you don't want to talk about the liberal sex end programs. Surely, you are not going to proclaim this ongoing fiasco as a success.

I actually didn't say you did but the tone of your post seemed to warrant posting links of the current alternative to well rounded fully informative sexual education which are and were successful.

I don't think the original programs as liberal at all. Liberal would be distributing free material, condoms and oral contraceptives etc. in all public spaces. A large number of well reasoned conservatives were party to the implementation of the original sexual education programs as well. The current fiasco is a result from the extreme opposite of liberal on the political spectrum.

This is a very entertaining and informative discussion. Three words come to mind in reading the responses. Sefl-righteous, pompous and Ass.

Hey, if a virgin male catholic tells me oral contraceptives are only recommended to be taken for 7 years, what kind of inept retard would even question that?

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I doubt if the people you name as supporting these programs would qualify in most conservatives books as conservative. But name a few anyway.

"Liberal would be distributing free material, condoms and oral contraceptives etc. in all public spaces."

Sorry, I just don't get this one. Even in Amsterdam where the drug policy is one of the most liberal in the world, you still have to get your drugs in brown bars not the 7-11 on the corner.