I really hope that English was a second language in that last post.

If not...see? Cultish.

I fail to see how either side is different other than it appears Clinton supporters get really ugly most times. Obviously there are bad folk on both sides so I'll just speak to whether or not one side will vote for the other this way: They will either vote for their party or McCain will be President. In the end it doesn't matter how dumb a person wants to be.

The sickening thing about all this is both sides have forgotten this practice session is a war within one party. I think Democrats may well have gotten so bitter over the years that now they eat their own.

Obama would make a great President so it is a crying shame that as a leading candidate he still can't run. Pathetic.

marylb,

What do you mean when you say "he still can't run?"

mercadia:

Dausuul:

Speaking for those of us on the Obama side, we aren't exactly thrilled when Clinton supporters call us a "cult," either.

Then don't act like a cult.

Since when are supporters of a leading candidate considered a cult? Leading candidates have supporters. I wouldn't have answered your post had I known you were a part of the problem of general nastiness masked as "Shame on the other guy". Obama is the leading candidate. Tough. Get used to it. This party is as dysfunctional as the invented wars within.

Cult? Good grief. Look around - this country is in trouble. Be serious.

mercadia:

marylb, What do you mean when you say "he still can't run?"

At this point in the election the norm is to have the leading candidate able to focus on the opposition when it is clear the other can't catch up. McCain doesn't have to do a single thing but sit back and watch this circus.

marylb,

I think all of that is just mumbo-jumbo. The polls show that McCain isn't winning to either candidate. Everyone is focused on the Democratic candidates--they are getting a ton of publicity and no one else even knows what McCain is doing. Sure, he's cooling his heels, but anyone who lives in America should know that "branding" is important. Do you really imagine, after all of this excitement, that anyone is going to say, well, that was interesting, now I'll vote for McCain.

I honestly don't think that will happen. It's like choosing Fanta when you could choose Coca-Cola.

I think Obama will win the nomination, and I think he'll win the election. But liberals (and I am a liberal) tend to freak out over everything. They have a hard time seeing the forest for the trees.

Since when are supporters of a leading candidate considered a cult? Leading candidates have supporters.

A supporter is cultish when they:

1. Parrot everything their candidate says.
2. Parrot everything their candidate says, even though what their candidate is saying doesn't really mean anything practical.
3. Are unable to see any flaws in their candidate.
4. Blame the other candidate for every misstep their candidate makes.
5. Seem completely blind and respond to every argument with, "change! change! change!" When you ask them what that means they say, "umm....change! change! change!"

It's culty because it seems based on dogma. There are very many parallels between that kind of behavior and religious worship. That's when a politician, who is a flawed human being who is going to take a job that is very hard and very powerful, ceases to be a person and becomes a symbol (like Jesus). It's just...CULTY.

And moreover, cult of personality is what drives fascism, not Democracy. Democracy is supposed to be based on critical thinking, not cult of personality.

At this point in the election the norm is to have the leading candidate able to focus on the opposition when it is clear the other can't catch up. McCain doesn't have to do a single thing but sit back and watch this circus.

Actually that's not true. Lots of primaries have gone until June and beyond. I have gotten meaner because I got really tired of saying, "that is not true. that is inaccurate. that's not correct. that is not true."

It gets annoying.

If Clinton manages to "steal" the nomination from Obama, I'd actually just be happy if we don't have city-destroying riots.

c12k,

That was racist.

"Then don't act like a cult."

If you're going to say stuff like this, don't whine that Obama supporters have offended your poor sensitive little soul by criticizing YOUR candidate.

Dausuul,

Ok, then I'll criticize your candidate.

If Clinton manages to "steal" the nomination from Obama, I'd actually just be happy if we don't have city-destroying riots.

mercadia:

c12k, That was racist.

(Pssst! He didn't say anything about race.....I won't divulge my ethnicity, but a politikal power-grab such as a Clinton nomination.....well, it wouldn't compel me to be positive about my lot.....and I'll certainly have a role model who'll do anything to get ahead....and it's only one window pane between me and that plasma TV I've wanted since Bill slept with that intern....)

mercadia:

And moreover, cult of personality is what drives fascism, not Democracy. Democracy is supposed to be based on critical thinking, not cult of personality.

I like Obama. I'm not ashamed to admit it and I don't worship him either. I'm glad I can participate in an election in this country and actually LIKE one of the candidates.

You have got to be kidding me: "cult of personality" is what drives American pop culture, the mainstream media and every single thing that is on TV, the internet and radio.

Get over yourself!

What do you call "cult of family" or 27 years of the same two families in the White House and wanting more? "Cult of dynasty building"? What - no one else in a country of more than 100 million people is capable except these two families?

Get over yourself!

Democracy in America is by the people and for the people. And if the people are just SICK of the Bush/Clinton families and have been able to survive a virtual destruction of democracy as we've known it for 200 years at the hands of GWB and Dick Cheney and some of us are happy to see someone who has some new things to say then you'll just have to excuse our "cult of joy" as we say: Obama 08!

And as for quoting what he says and means instead of just chanting, I will tell you this: Here is one of the many things he's said about change that made up my mind.

Obama's willingness to speak out on behalf of diplomacy, talking with leaders of ALL nations, not just the ones we like, is something I am definitely FOR! And that *IS* change. It is Change with a capital C! And since the rest of his platform is pretty typical Democratic Party then THAT one big difference makes me think - YES, this is the man for me!