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Re: Nobody WANTS a Gay kid
by gunsmoke

First. I fail to see what is wrong with bigotry, like it is a bad word. PhysicsGirl, are you a bigot for being intolerant of my opinion because it is different than yours? How dare you cast judgment on me casting judgment of others! I guess my opinions and values are worthless. I should just bend to will of the PC God and be accepting of anyone or anything for fear of being a bigot. Barf!

Second, of course gays can have kids but not with each other, duh! The only way for them to have their own children is via science or not being gay. Did I really have to spell it out?

Third. kaiso wants me to “grow up” and “learn a little.” Why does the gay community constantly need to feel validated? It is not my place to tell other consenting adults what they can and can’t do. I fail to see why it is a shitty thing for me to do. I do not approve of the lifestyle, I fail to see why I would want that in my home.

I may be more accepting if I was convinced that gayness was a genetic defect or disorder. As it is there many gays pushing their lifestyle and are out and flamboyantly PROUD. I am sorry, I find it hard to see how people are “born” gay translates to having the right to have a parade in assless chaps down main street.

Re: Nobody WANTS a Gay kid
by kaiso

"I fail to see what is wrong with bigotry"

Aha! There's your problem. You're a horrible person.

"The only way for them to have their own children is via science"

So? What's your point? The same goes for infertile straight couples. Also, it's not really all that "scientific", necessarily. A willing friend, a syringe, and some time would suffice in most cases.

(Although it's harder for gay men to find the "willing friend" than lesbians, since carrying a child in your womb for 9 months and then birthing it is a somewhat more extensive favor than ejaculating into a cup.)

Again, you don't see why it's a shitty thing to do to your child because you are a horrible person. It's a shitty thing to do because you're willing to believe anyone but your own child, who is sitting there telling you that this wasn't a choice he made, that he's living a perfectly nice and normal life, and that this person is important to him. You'd rather do anything than reconsider your idiotic "disapproval" and learn what your son's life and experiences actually have been. You'd rather hurt your own child and make it clear that you don't really love him - you just love an imaginary son who is just like him except not gay - than be polite to someone who has never done you any harm. If you don't understand what's so bad about that, there is no hope for you... you're a heartless monster.

I am proud of who I am, and that doesn't involve assless chaps. (Besides, you can see far worse than assless chaps at Mardi Gras in New Orleans. But since that's mostly naked women parading around for the entertainment of men, well, that's ok, right?)

I am a decent person, a good friend, a mother, a wife, a daughter, a sister. I've made my mistakes but I've tried to do my best and learn from them. I contribute to my community. I'm a good person to have around, and I never wear assless chaps. You want me to be ashamed of the fact that my partner is a woman instead of a man, but I find that to be completely ridiculous. There's no reason I should be ashamed of that fact. There's no reason I should allow you to get away with putting me down. You can take your ridiculous, pointless, clueless "disapproval" of me and shove it right up your ass.

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