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We knew that some time ago, Ellen. But good for you.
by Inkberrow
Now go post something that isn't a function of the passive-aggresive psychodrama you've humiliatingly mired yourself in ever since you were exposed as a liar.
Re: I'm a liar.
by Schmutzie

Re: I'm a liar.

I know. That's why I called you a goddamned liar.

Is this thing on?

Of course ...... I was elswhere for most of it, wasn't I?

Exactly why you should think before you post, maybe even read a little bit. That way you wouldn't come off like a screeching lying loon, again.

I'll bet anything, most of those comments were in resonse to baiting, taunting posts such as Ryerson's "'The BOTF is dead".

Backpedal all you want Ollie. Go ahead and serve as SpeakerNancy's apologist. You're still a liar.

My God, ba is funny !!! bet you'd give anything on earth almost, to have her on Procrastination.

Of course you'd lose that bet, just like the one before.

But true, I lied. There ARE posts about Procrastination of TBOF,

I know you lied, already said that. I've been following the Geezer experiment with some level of personal interest, and am aware of the Geezer fixation among your clicque. Welcome to the party Ollie. I'm sure you know Jugdesch, Kent, and Lenny (Larry!), and ....

Re: I'm a liar.
by Ollies Ellen
You were around a long time. At least TBOF hasn't taken over a separate forum to smear your old Alma Mater, still funny, you can dish it out but can't take it back. I just went through TBOF's top posts for the last few weeks, I wasn't here before then although at first glance I didn't see much about the Procrastination/TBOF split much further back than "This Place Smells Like Shit" by fellow cliquester Schrodinger, 10-26 -- I'll keep looking, on your side now too. There is the "Here's where "they" could gather" by you-know-who on 10-26 ... a real match for Schrodingers "This Place Smells Like Shit"! Did you find that big old post I JUST MUST have made about fraycentric emails? You and your clicque know more about what I post than I do. Now I'll go through Procrastination to see what was written and when and by whom about TBOF. But I lied, for sure.
Re: I'm a liar.
by Schmutzie

You're obfuscating,

Actually, you're trying to obfuscate, but you're failing.

The whole Geezer migration happened as a result of disgust with what BotF had become (and still remains.) Flamers, spammers, shamers, liars, Cut&Pasters, and weirdos.

The early posts in the experiment were ALL ABOUT BotF. What would you expect?

One of the key purposes behind the Geezer experiment was to establish who follows whom around the various boards, and for what purpose. At first, it was me, Ink, Ryerson, bite, catnapping, daveto, keifus,TG, and a few others. Now, its list of posters includes essentially everyone I used to read at the old board.

Assuming you're telling the truth about having missed the first part of the experiment, and that's an assumption I hesitate to make, perhaps I can thumbnail it for you.

At the time, my hypothesis was that at first, friendly Geezers would trickle in as we checked on the MBTUs of people we enjoy posting with and saw their new home board. Check.

Shortly after the original move, Jeremy asked us to move to Procrastination to make room for a Slate article that utilized the Geezer board. No Problem. Okay, maybe there was some carping, but it settled down quickly.

Next, I suggested that people who disliked the vast majority of the Original 10 Geezers would follow us to the new board, either by openly posting there (SpeakerNancy & JackDallas fer instance couldn't resist proving me right) or would spend a large amount of time posting at BotF about us (Gatewood and LAM fer instance) in an unflattering way. Check.

The larger goal of the experiment was to send quarreling factions to neutral corners. As you can see from the front page of Procrastination, the (as expected) early chatter about the old place has died down to a barely audible whisper. Those Geezers have really done a great job of making the front page something we can all be proud of.

That's when you showed up with your usual selective outrage, your claim of being a clicque of one, and your current obsession with this here Shameful Conduct board.

temper
by biteoftheweek
Seems to me that if BOTF were such a blissful place, you wouldn't feel the need to come into this place and conduct yourself so shamefully. But, then what would you post about, if your weren't cursing and screaming at us with all kinds of accusations.
It's not BOTFers or Shameful Conducters, Bite---it's her.
by Inkberrow

Check out Another Liberal's "Two State Solution" thread near the top of the BOTF front page right now. Honest Ellen's there telling Anxious MoFo, of all posters, to "f*** off", for not being "fair" or "logical".

Bitter here
Bitter there
Bitter liar
Everywhere....

Re: I'm a liar.
by Ollies Ellen
I've been out of the country. Only read the fray several times and managed to eek out a response when I did. --Not that I feel I owe you any explanation at all. I'm awfully glad (as I've already written) this little miracle has happened, this way, everyone has landed in their rightful places and all is peaceful and no one is at each other's throats anymore and ne'er the twain shall meet, ever again, except on this purloined by the clicque, board. I wish you all, only the very best (said humbly, for I am only a third-rate frayster). Now, here are a few smiteful postings from your side of the tracks. 1. Sad to See - M., 10-29 2. You see they can't stay away long - MR, 10-25 3. When the Neighbors Moved Away - :Youse, 10-25 4. Feed a Troll / Scratch an Itch - Lou_Yi, 10-25 5. I dare say, they read our board more than they read botf - MR, 10-25 6. Oops, there is no #6 7. What does any of that have to do with this board? - forget, 10-25 8. What is That Smell? - Ryerson, 10-29 9. Hey, who left the door open? - Ryerson, 10-15 10. The Anguish is palpable - Ryerson, 10-13 That's as far as i got. And, all goddmaned lies and far more vicious than anything posted by TBOF'rs, either here or on TBOF propper. All made to many approving sounds from your vile clicque I see. All things being equal, your clicque has posted over the years, the most vile, made the most offensive personal attacks against posters such as myself and Tempo that have ever been posted. Your pitious snivelling here and on your board, your obsession with Tempo and the so-called ICP is too bizarre to describe, words fail me. The discordant strains that have been a blight upon TBOF since time immemorial have been far more from your side than from mine and they have been removed along with your departure. When I have time, I'll re-post some of the more obscene posts I'm thinking of as I write this, I'll get back to that later, cat hater.
God, what amusing irony
by Ollies Ellen
and hypocrisy, you yapping little freak. You lie every time you open your big mouth. You are funny.
Re: I'm a liar.
by Schmutzie

Your pitious snivelling here and on your board, your obsession with Tempo and the so-called ICP is too bizarre to describe, words fail me.

All insufferably windy evidence to the contrary.

Alt resp: You Lie!!!

The discordant strains that have been a blight upon TBOF since time immemorial have been far more from your side than from mine and they have been removed along with your departure.

You don't have a side, remember?

You're Honest Ellen who just calls 'em like you sees 'em.

I'm sure one of the vile, foul, incredibly tasteless attack posts you're thinking of was the one where I told you that I think you're a worthless sack of poo-poo who has never top posted a thing worth reading, and that you spend all of your time on the fray being selectively outraged. A liar who accused others of exchanging fraycentric email communications, and pre-planning attacks on other fraysters, ...while doing exactly that yourself. A person so devoid of the embarrassment gene, or any sense of hypocrisy, that you'd follow the public humiliation brought down on you by those emails with this dismissive, "act like nothing happened" posture.

Sorry, I calls 'em like I sees 'em too Ollie.

(I love cats. The key is low heat and slow cooking. Kinda like ribs.)

Re: God, what amusing irony
by dumb_blonde

Every time you post here, you do nothing but prove the posters here that they are correct in their assumption of you. Someone has to let the other have the last word & then go to the slate of their choice & let it all end. Close the door & walk away. We all have seen what has happened, what has been posted & who posted what. You are only convincing yourself.

Let it go.

Did you have a lobotomy?
by Ollies Ellen
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Oh, the raving insane irony and obscene stalking hypocrisy!
by Inkberrow

Ollies Ellen:

You lie every time you open your big mouth.

Poster Ollies Ellen is a top quality Fray poster of the old school. That means not only that she's kind-hearted and warm, generous and patient, and markedly personable on the poster-to--poster plane, but also that she contributes solid, regular, topical, and trenchant commentary on politics, travel, the arts, and especially current Slate articles. She is renowned, almost obsessive pet lover, and certainly not as a default or fallback position because human relationships have repeatedly failed her. She would never, ever compile an Enemies List of Fray posters she hates, nor comb their MBTUs relentlessly for opportunities to sneer or attack, nor operate in this connection cooperatively with other bitter Fray compulsives via private e-mail. Poster Ollies Ellen is neither a self-admitted nor externally-proven serial liar and stalker. She is well-liked and widely respected on the Fray, which would be noticeably the lesser without her presence.

hmmm 'devoid of the embarrassment gene' yeah, hmmmm...
by MichaelRyerson
ah, perhaps we're on the cusp of a new moniker 'The Unembarrassables' yes, yes, I can see the need for such a label, not to the exclusion of those already in wide use but still...I can see certain applications...yeah The Unembarrassables. what I like the most about it is that it applies so consistently to the whole lot of them, a trait they all display in a highly refined form.
No mystery. "Devoid of embarrassment" is a concomitant of
by Inkberrow

"devoid of shame", which is in turn a concomitant of "devoid of honesty and integrity".

Ah, the inhumanity.....

By god, you're funny!
by Ollies Ellen
Just look at you! Six screeds and you're just getting warmed up. You're just too easy. The Clicque loves you Inkberrow.
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