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Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by mark14
Not all Israel's fault. I lay the blame on both sides but most on one sided assholes like you. Of course there is fault on both sides but you cheer on the slaughter of the innocent and then dare to ask why do they hate the perpetrators. You are worse than the terrorist you disparage for hiding behind their women and children because at least they run the risk of death while do your incitement from the safety of a foreign land. You are neither an Israeli nor an honorable Jew nor an honorable American, just some self invented bad caricature of a hatred filled lost soul without a religion or a nation. May Israel survive and live in peace but to hell with you.
Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by Gastronomic Dolphin
The Anti-Semites try to downplay the atrocities of Hamas when I confront them about this. Their spin on it: Hamas is firing bottle rockets in comparison to the "pain" Israel is dishing out.
Its Truth, Not Spin
by narby
The pain inflicted by the Palestinians, mostly on themselves, pales to insignificance compared to the atrocities committed on the false pretense of self-defense by Israel.
Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by Thoughtful Ted

Right. Only sanctimonious Mark cares about suffering.

LOL

Re: Its Truth, Not Spin
by Thoughtful Ted

At least we finally agree on something. The suffering of the Palestinian's has been self-inflicted.

It's exactly like insane people who commit suicide by cop.

Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by mark14
Yes, compared to Israel's jets, rockets, artillery, tanks (and let's never mention the nuclear arsenal) Hamas has bottle rockets but then compared to the suffering of the Jews the Palestinians have only skinned their knee and have no right to a homeland. Israel's founders were never involved in terrorism. And even if they were it was for a just cause. Isn't that how it goes? Any disagreement is Anit-Semitism.
Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by Thoughtful Ted

That's certainly how you see it.

That's not quite how it is, but you are free to believe whatever you like.

You could probably make a case for freeing the criminals from high security prisons too.

LOL

Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by Brainwash

After the fall of the Berlin Wall, many things have changed and too many words and slogans have become commonplace; and because they have become popular, they immediately found takers! Terms like ‘double standard policy’, ‘Anti-Semites’, ‘Terrorism’ and ‘the axis of evil’ among others have been in vogue, these days. So, all that you have to do is “give your dog a bad name and hang him” especially when it comes to exposing one’s point of view which carries certainly some moral support towards all the oppressed around the world the case here, the Palestinians. If you happen to utter the word 'Israel' is as if when you “Speak of the devil and he's sure to appear”; the devil, referred to here are those who, often wrongly or rightly, try hard to keep the Israeli policy brighter than never in the detriment of the suffering and pain of the Palestinians, by hook or by crook such as T.Ted and 3rdMan, just to name a few who will not hesitate to stick the label “anti-Semite” on you because of your views and it still works, unfortunately.

And I still wonder why this dubious silence on our part we Westerners!

PS, T.Ted and 3rdMan never fail to scold everyone who dares refute their allegations, often based on biased links!!

Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by Thoughtful Ted
Exactly. All of your sources are biased.
Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by Brainwash
Thoughtful Ted:
Exactly. All of your sources are biased.

The trick of “the links in support of evidences” has no more effect on people; to refresh your oxidized memory here are samples, evidences:

1 - The existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that the United States claimed detain proofs supported by satellite photos!

2 - Shimon Peres formally denied that no children in Gaza were killed by the IDF, though transmitted on television and live, s'il vous plaît!

3- Etc...LOL! So stop whining about your links!

Ted is Actually a Palestinian mole whose insulting,
by narby
ignorant comments are designed to alienate fence sitters and Israel supporters. Either that or he's brain dead.
Re: Wow - what a propaganda piece
by Thoughtful Ted

Frankly, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

When did I ever whine about my links?

Re: Ted is Actually a Palestinian mole whose insulting,
by Thoughtful Ted

LOL

Do you assholes actually have anything important to say, or are you just having too much fun ganging up on me?

LOL

Why should we have to read Salon or The Nation to sort out
by narby

the truth from the lies in the Washinton Post and the NY Times about Israel in general and the Freeman decapitation by AIPAC. Here's an excellent article in Salon by Glen Greenwald on how Freeman was "Jewed" by AIPAC without "taking a FORMAL position" on his appointment. Apparently there's been a whole lotta lyin' goin' on.

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Re: Why should we have to read Salon or The Nation to sort out
by Thoughtful Ted

So what?

Let's just carry on this entire conversation without even discussing whether or not Freeman's views make any sense.

Let's just dump on the Jews and AIPAC for exercising (or not) their constitutional rights.

That's real intelligent now, ain't it.

Why doesn't anyone ask why the Arab lobbying groups, which are as wealthy as AIPAC, don't have the same kind of clout?

Could it be that Americans in general have very little love for Muslim terrorists and see Israel as battling on the frontlines of that "war?" Could it be that someone who has an Arab propagandist's opinions isn't seen as the right guy for the job?

No. It must be some kind of conspiracy.

LOL

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